Drawing Attention...

[rrich]

Yeah Ive heard of that right on red rule. :eek:

Its scary.

Aren't you allowed to turn left on red?

[Felder]

Only if there is signposted permission to do so.

At least, that is the case in NSW. Could be completely different in other parts of the country.

[Iain]

I have attended some rather spectacular motorcycle accidents and I am amazed at how resilient some riders are:
Dandenong. Drug crazed moron doing monos, rear ends stationary Toyota Hilux 4WD at approx 160kph, major leg and internal injuries but lives.
I had to interview him in gaol re his claim, he thought he had won lotto until I explained that everything was based on loss of earnings and earnig potential, never had a job in his life and was a crim.
Not a happy camper when he found out he was getting nothing except his medical bills.
Motorcycle accident in Doncaster, bike comes over rise at approx 180kph and into side of brand new Mercedes performorming right turn, driver said way was clear when he proceeded and bike came out of nowhere.
Rider has a flying lesson, broken shoulder, broken legs, Mercedes is a write off (as was bike).
I used to ride a bike but had too many close calls, never came off on the road (once in the dirt but that was my fault and was only embarrassing).

[ozwinner]

Only if there is signposted permission to do so.

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Same here.

Al

[Rookie]

Only if there is signposted permission to do so.

At least, that is the case in NSW. Could be completely different in other parts of the country.

Yep. Not allowed in Victoria, or Queensland yet I believe but it's still 1982 there and could take a while (insert ducking for cover emoticon)

I believe it was first trialled in 'Straya in WA.

Anyone from WA able to confirm?

It's a great law. I travel the US lots and I love it.

[Auld Bassoon]

Some time ago when I lived in Johannesburg I attended a BMW sponsored 1/2 day advanced driving couse on BMW's own skid-pan and tuition grounds in the mid-Rand.

I enjoyed it so much that I signed up for a full five day advanced course.

This was really intensive stuff as well as being both informative and fun.

To 'pass' one had to have retained 95 points or more from an allocated 100. Errors such as resting an elbow on the door cost a point. Stopping too close to the car in front at a traffic light (where one couldn't see the car in front's rear tyres on the road) cost two points. Any traffic infringement of any kind meant an instant fail.

I got 97.

The reward - the last half day on the skid pan and doing some defensive driving on private roads - Whooooo!

I like to think that all of the above made me a better driver and, above all, a safer one.

[ozwinner]

I like to think that all of the above made me a better driver and, above all, a safer one.

So when I see you bearing down on me at 200kms per hour, Ill know Im alright.

Al

[macca2]

In Western Australia you only turn left on a red light if there is a green arrow displayed.
You can never turn right or left on a red light without the arrow.

Macca

[Auld Bassoon]

So when I see you bearing down on me at 200kms per hour, Ill know Im alright.

Al

Al! how could you possible say that :eek: I never, ever, exceed the maximum speed of whatever I'm driving

BTW, now that I'm NOT is RSA, I used to drive from Johannesburg to Cape Town fairly regularly. About 1610KM - call it 12 hours +/- 5 mins - would set the cruise control at 240Km/H through the Great Karoo (yes, there really is a region with that name:eek: ) 850+Km of largely nothing...

BTW2 When I first arrived in Johannesburg, it was perfectly legal to use the hard shoulder to overtake, and overtaking was legal on either side - made for some interesting highway runs.....

[echnidna]

- would set the cruise control at 240Km/H through the Great Karoo (yes, there really is a region with that name:eek: ) 850+Km of largely nothing...

sounds like the nullabor

[Clinton1]

Now that I don't commute to work through peak hour my general stress level is pretty much set at Nil.

Lets see, what used to annoy me:
the pull into the 2 second space morons,
the pull into that space between the truck and the car in front morons,
idiots that get on the horn when I'm at the front at a red light and won't turn left illegally,
the bloke behind me that lit up his tyres cause I would not go through the red light,
the people that travel in the right lane doing 10km less than the speed limit,
Mr P-plater who cuts across 3 lanes to find a 2 second safety zone to get into,
Trucks trying to avoid running up the &&&& of idiots that pulled in front of them and then stopped,
Fools that use "driving lights",
4WD's with incorrectly adjusted lights,
Unsecured loads on the Western Ring road.

Theres more.... but not no more

[Auld Bassoon]

How about reaction times that need to be measured with a sun dial.

1. Melbourne drivers (an oxymoron, perhaps?) see a traffic light change to green; think "hmm, maybe I should start moving soon, oh! It's gone amber again...)

2. People who think that they have they god bothering right to make whatever lane changes they like, when they like, just because they've flashed their indicator for a couple of blinks...

I'll go now.

[Groggy]

This one happened Sunday night.

Driving down a 110km freeway at 9pm, on cruise control, doing exactly 109kms. Car slowly catching me from behind but well clear, in right lane. I am in left lane approaching a car doing maybe 10kms less than I.

Just as I put my finger on the indicator to overtake the car in front, it changes lanes to the right lane. Not sure what it was doing, I stay in left lane on the cruise control. The car in the right lane behind me slows and changes to get in behind me as I am now level with the car and overtaking.

The car beside me then accelerates hard and pulls in front of me and brakes! I am forced to brake and the car behind me accellerates and overtakes, blocking any exit I had on the right. I brake harder then pull immediately behind the overtaking vehicle. The dunce in the left lane then accellerates and stays level with the car that overtook me, they then go to about 120kms until the driver in the right lane really guns it. The dunce then backs right off, lets me pass then goes on high beam.

I flicked my mirror to night,engaged the cruise control again and nudged up to 111kms so I could slowly leave the dill behind.

What was it about? No idea. My lights were on low beam, I'd approached steadily and was not exceeding the limit. The other driver was also behaving lawfully and carefully (except I wished he hadn't overtaken me when I needed the room). Within ten seconds the fool had endangered four people's lives for no apparent reason.

I can only suspect drugs or alchohol.

[Schtoo]

Only drugs or alcohol?

I'd say he was just an id10t myself.


Uhh folks, don't drive here. Trust me on this.

I don't usually drive during peak hours, and this is a small city (kinda like Adelaide, a little smaller though) but the number of morons amazes me.

People don't look, don't think and don't even try to drive sensibly. It's common to see some halfwit who is $#!* terrified to drive at a sensible speed (like 30 in a 50 zone) proceed to run a red light. Like 5 seconds worth of red.

I came home about 1AM last night, and was doing 60 in a 50 zone most of the way home, I was the slowest car on the road, and yes I was driving in the right lane because I was sure some nimrod was going to run a red light and figured a lane of space might give me a sporting chance.

Many times some cornhole will tailgate me. Tailgate here means you can see the back of their head they are so close. If they become obnoxious about it, I will brake test them. Not a gentle dab at the stop pedal, I mean ABS invoking emergency stop stuff. Still waiting for someone to get out and have a word to me. Should be fun, I think I'll break their keys off in the ignition and fling them somehwere.

I should keep a list, or maybe set up a video camera in the car. Could make a fortune selling tapes of nutjobs running around here.

Seems to be that because I am not one of them (I do stop for red lights, stop signs and other minor traffic annoyances) I notice it all the more.

On second thought, if you could come here Dan and sort them out. Please?

Maybe I should become a cop, I think I'd have heaps of fun.



Still don't feel any better after that though. I still have to go out there and face those demons tonight, and what's worse is that my wife will be in the car too. My only release (screaming at them in paint peeling language) is denied to me.

Well, at least she is starting to see how stoopid they are too. It's a start... :mad:

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

the pull into the 2 second space morons,
the pull into that space between the truck and the car in front morons,

Both these bring back memories.

My bros-in-law used to haul honeycomb rocks from Melb's western suburbs to garden supplies in an old Dodge tipper and dog-trailer. About 60 tons all up. Stopped at the lights over the bridge, he'd just started pulling away when some moron in an MG sports (I think... 'twas a long time ago) tried pulling in between the truck and dog!! :eek:

My BIL showed me some photos after the event, let's just say the MG was beyond panel-beating. Pity it wasn't LH drive, then the idiot would've been a prime candidate for the Darwin Awards.