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Thread: Being secure at HOME assault
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14th January 2009, 10:38 PM #46
Deal, and in the meantime I am sure you will present us with a case where a court has denied compensation to a criminal who has been injured where the assailant showed "No duty of care".
cheers
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14th January 2009, 10:44 PM #47Senior Member
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Free access to guns?
Dont you think they haven't already got that?
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14th January 2009, 11:09 PM #48
They love criminals here
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...44-661,00.html
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14th January 2009, 11:28 PM #49SENIOR MEMBER
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Remember the rate was per capita, a better comparison than whole numbers, were there is under 300 a year in Australia compared to around 25,000 a year in the US. Washington alone has more murders than Australia and a population of around 6 million.
Also the rate quoted was country wide, a recent report by the FBI found that crime rates were 2 times higher in the cities than rural areas per capita. For example Washington is more than 10x the US national rate. That makes Washington a staggering 30 times more likely than in Australia.......
Another scary statistic from the same search also showed just over 42% of murders go unsolved in the US compared to less than 10% in Australia..
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14th January 2009, 11:33 PM #50
And Americans can't shoot straight.........all those movies......50 bullets per six-gun.
Oh Well!
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14th January 2009, 11:41 PM #51SENIOR MEMBER
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14th January 2009, 11:45 PM #52
I'll bet the barn was buggered though.
Tee Hee.
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15th January 2009, 09:12 AM #53
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15th January 2009, 09:21 AM #54
Where I was going with what I said is that here the killing is very up close and personal where someone is beat to death with an object and or hands and feet. Killing is hideous no matter what but to beat someone to death is far more deep and disturbing than a similar act with a gun. I would say it takes far more depravity of mind to kill someone with your own hands than to stand back and shoot someone.
When you consider that, one can only be thankful that guns aren't readily available here or I wouldn't be surprised that australia would be vying for the top spot. After all aussies don't like being second in anything
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15th January 2009, 09:29 AM #55SENIOR MEMBER
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This one thing even the Kiwis beat us in, but unfortunately we are pretty high in comparison to the UK, Japan and quite a few other countries.
When we had guns the rate was the same, in fact the only thing that changed was the method, guns down, stabbings up and 23% are with no weapon at all..
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15th January 2009, 11:06 AM #56
I think on the surface what you say looks valid, but consider this - if you hit someone, do you expect/intend that to kill them? If you point a gun at someone and pull the trigger, do you expect/intend that to kill them?
Killing someone with your bare hands certainly would be considered brutal, but I doubt that the perpetrator's initial intention was to kill the victim - cause grievous bodily harm, maybe. I don't think you can say the same for shootings - really the intention of the perpetrator is to kill the victim.Cheers.
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15th January 2009, 11:35 AM #57
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15th January 2009, 12:46 PM #58
Are you a highly educated expert in law do you even have a law degree... diploma... If not, you may know a bit about law and able to rattle on to people so as to make them think you're knowledgeable; but ultimately you're an arm chair expert that has no comprehensive practical and or working knowledge of the law and ultimately your advice is useless. But it doesn't stop us from having an opinion - and shouldn't. Which means everyone here would be classed as an armchair expert. I know there's the odd lawyer on the forum - ever wonder why they don't respond to this sort thread. Probably don't like being lectured by armchair experts.
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15th January 2009, 12:47 PM #59
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