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  1. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vernonv View Post
    OK, the amount to be spent on bike paths is $40m. That is 0.095% of the $42b package.

    It's simple, you need to pay people to build the paths.

    The money paid goes back into the economy and gets "recycled". Just the same as any infrastructure project. I'm not sure I see the difference.
    I've typed this twice now. One more try. It is the economic impact after the building project is completed that is different. You could pay people to build $40 million worth of sand castles but if the asset is of little or no value to the community after the project is finished then the money can be better spent elsewhere.

    Yes, give the guy $40m and see what he achieves with it. Lets compare apples with apples.
    40 mill would build quite a few buses, for example, and their ongoing costs should be covered by fares.
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    I'm going to do it again. Damian, I totally agree with you.
    I make things, I just take a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damian View Post
    I've typed this twice now. One more try. It is the economic impact after the building project is completed that is different. You could pay people to build $40 million worth of sand castles but if the asset is of little or no value to the community after the project is finished then the money can be better spent elsewhere.
    It looks like I also need to keep repeating myself - a road is no different to a bike path. Now a bike path may not be of use to you, but there are plenty of people who it is of use to. On top of that we are talking about a minuscule percentage of the total package - if it was a significant percentage, then I might agree with you ... but it isn't.
    40 mill would build quite a few buses, for example, and their ongoing costs should be covered by fares.
    Your joking right - when has public transport ever paid for itself? When you consider the initial outlay, plus drivers wages, plus fuel, plus maintenance ... $40m won't get you far ... you'd be better off buying a bike.
    Cheers.

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    Luckily I don't have to make a decision in Queensland.

    But I would remind Queenslanders of one of the few sensible things that a State Premier has said - Nick Greiner pointed out that in modern Australia, the States are not about economies (sorry Anna, even the QIC guy had to say that you are irrelevant to economic matters) that is a Federal issue. The States are about efficient service delivery in the areas of their responsibility - those are water, electricity, roads, rail, ports, education, hospitals, police courts, prisons, etc.

    The decision about which party to elect is not ideological (or should not be) it is about who do you think can delvier those services with the greatest "bang per buck". That really means - honesty and preparedness to make decisions without bloating the intermediaries of the bureacracy between the source of the funding and the point of delivery of the service. To put it another way, you want good management without corruption or porkbarrelling.

    Take policing and justice - do not fall for the crap about fixed term sentences - these only put the muppets that the Police manage to catch behind bars for longer and does not prevent crime.
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    I am wondering if labor are going to bother releasing any polices this election campaign...All they currently have done is attack the opposition...Perhaps after 12 years in office they feel their fantastic record of managing the state speaks for itself and they do not need to do anything...

    Also notice they are nothing but doom and gloom on the future of the state with regards to the economic crisis...

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    Don't forget to vote today and remember that Queensland has optional preferential voting....You do not have to preference other candidates..Putting just a single 1 in a box will do...

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    Pretty sure politicians are going to win. As usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gra View Post
    Guys,

    remember, no mater who you vote for. You always end up with a politician
    Quote Originally Posted by mjmjm View Post
    Pretty sure politicians are going to win. As usual.
    Michael
    mjmjm Your about a month late on that comment
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    somehow labour managed to get in again.

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    Sorry, hadn't seen any previous posts.
    True nevertheless.
    Looks like Labor's back. Sigh.
    I'm working class, but this mob's got nothing to do with the working class. Pity there wasn't an alternative.

    Michael

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    Looks like our (once) hospital stays a 'Health Centre' , no police to ring in an emergencey (it's a waste of time here) , dumb kids (and teachers), criminals free and rewarded

    BUT we get a walking track to the Cape, Crocs in Space and poison (flouride) in our once world class water.

    Bring back the 'Brisbane Line'

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    and all the poor buggers in town get to drink s#!t

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    Message to the new Queensland government:

    We didn't want you back but we're stuck with you.
    But don't imagine for a minute that you have a mandate to do anything except fix the things you've broken since you've been in office.

    Michael

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    I do not understand, when we have plenty of water (here in what used to be the Douglas Shire), we have water restrictions because they have water restrictions in Cairns

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    Please Explain


    :

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    The explanation is called bureaucrats.
    They are smarter than politicians.
    Politicians, mostly, don't know which way is up.
    Bureaucrats run governments.
    Bureaucrats also don't know which way is up, but they know how to get what they want.

    Michael

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