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6th July 2005, 08:49 PM #46
hear hear Ashore, very valid points.
Bruce C.
catchy catchphrase needed here, apply in writing to the above .
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6th July 2005, 08:59 PM #47
Ashore, wasn't able to give you as greenie
Mick
avantguardian
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6th July 2005, 10:38 PM #48
Originally Posted by Gingermick
Originally Posted by Gingermick
Ashore - you hit the nail fair on the head, Have a greenie!
ColDriver of the Forums
Lord of the Manor of Upper Legover
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6th July 2005, 11:03 PM #49
Originally Posted by Jack E
Despite this levy a significant proportion of our society is not receiving adequate health care. I saw a patient today with severe deforming rheumatoid arthritis significantly impairing his quality of life, who was on no treatment because he couldnt afford it. This patient was in his 50s and could not dress himself, unlock a door or drive a car.
This is unacceptable in Australia and scrapping or reducing the levy will make this situation worse. I say keep it going and I would be happy if it was even increased in those subgroups that can afford to pay for it. I'm sure those that are making $200,000 a year would not miss a few extra thousand...
For the rest of us, at least you can sleep well knowing that you are contributing to the welfare of the less fortunate.
regards
MariosYou can never have enough planes, that is why Mr Stanley invented the 1/2s
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6th July 2005, 11:08 PM #50
Originally Posted by Gingermick
BTW, I am a tradesman, not management, not somebody who had a company land on their doorstep, I worked to get where I am and everyone in this great country has the opportunity to do the same, that's why it is great.
Originally Posted by Gingermick
I do acknowledge the unfortunate such as the disabled and even those who have succumbed to severe bad luck and misfortune but I think those taking advantage of the good will of our society far out weigh those who genuinely need a hand.
Jack"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
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6th July 2005, 11:11 PM #51
Originally Posted by Ashore
Jack"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
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6th July 2005, 11:18 PM #52
Originally Posted by routermaniac
It is a poor attitude when people say "the rich will pay for it, they won't notice it".
You will more than likely find that people who have money are not the ones who are flippant with it and "a few extra thousand" matters.
Why should $1000 mean any less to a $100,000 earner than it does to a $50,000 earner. :confused: :confused: :confused:
If you were earning $40,000 and somebody who earns $20,000 said they would be happy for you to pay a whole lot more than them would you be happy?
Jack"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
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6th July 2005, 11:29 PM #53
Originally Posted by Ashore
And while I agree with those whose social consciences would have the rich paying for the poor (to paraphrase many of the above points), I think there is also a great inequity in the reverse scenario.
What about those who have lived frugal (but none the less enjoyable) lives, forgoing many of the day to day "necessities" and some pleasures for many years, carefully making provision for tomorrow, while their friends who earned as much, or more than they, were content to urinate their futures against the nearest wall or puff them up in smoke.
Why should the careful people now have to subsidise the dialysis or diabetes treatment of those who chose a self indulgent lifestyle, spending all they earnt as they earnt it?
I'm sure they are happy to contribute (or even pay totally) to the well being of those worse off through circumstance of birth or education, but why should they suffer the prejudice of more expensive health care because through careful management they have accumulated sufficient assets to live independantly???
Why are they not entitled to the same benefit as their wasteful, partygoing bretheren? Why are they denied subsidised rates, bus fairs and medication??
Why are they penalised for their careful management?
It would seem in our society, all animals are equal except the squirrels, or is it the others have paid enough in entertainment, tobacco and alcohol taxes that their medical treatment should be covered for life anyway??
Cheers,
P (Tired of hearing how tough and unfair life is today!)
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6th July 2005, 11:35 PM #54
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
I have probably paid more tax through entertainment, tobacco and alcohol than the average person my age aswell
I think we all know that nothing is going to change, in fact, like somebody has already said, it is only going to get worse.
Jack."There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
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6th July 2005, 11:38 PM #55
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6th July 2005, 11:42 PM #56
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
My rants tonight are also football (with a few rums) induced.
I know you are a Queenslander Peter so why are you using smilies tonight, you just got flogged"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
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6th July 2005, 11:45 PM #57
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6th July 2005, 11:48 PM #58
Are you using puns again
Jack."There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
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6th July 2005, 11:53 PM #59
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This theme of the haves paying for the have nots is becoming too regular for me to get upset or to comment.
The law is very simple, if you have income you pay taxes and the greater income the greater the taxes. The medicare levy is a tax to fund government expenditure, like all other taxes and has nothing to do with health care costs. It was misnamed by politicians to make the tax more palatable.
If you don't like paying, get yourself a good accountant, reorganise your affairs so that you pay less but stop whinging about it. :mad:
Peter.
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6th July 2005, 11:58 PM #60
Originally Posted by Sturdee
That is exactly what I and am sure most others in my situation do, doesn't help the situation though.
Jack."There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."