Fess up time - Ever been to a strip club?

[pawnhead]

Got news for you he was/is a public payed person even back then so yes it was your money he was throwing around not just him but those with him the Union man aslo.

I think they'd be making a much bigger deal of it if the money came from the public purse. Or does your boss get to tell you what to spend his money on after he's paid you with it?

[Andy Mac]

Not a prude but I haven't been to one! Well maybe some unofficial versions... They seems like an expensive exercise, and all a bit tawdry, like brothels. What's wrong that you can't get your jollies for free!?!

It certainly would be an issue to those who would vote for him because of his religious convictions, and it certainly is an issue when it's seen as hypocrisy on his part.

For mine, it just takes the edge off an otherwise undesirable trait.

Tend to agree, I've had enough of that holier-than-thou snake Abbot to think of it as a plus.

I think this whole furore is just ridiculous. For goodness sake. As long as Kevvie isn't spending my money when he's getting snake's hissed and stuffing my $20 notes down the front of a "lady's" knickers, I don't care what he does when he is off duty. And I do consider his nights when he isn't at official functions "off duty".

For my money there isn't anything wrong with it, and it isn't any of my business. The folks that think it is their business are the ones that worry me a lot more....

Poppa, I think that sums it up for me. Better back then than some time soon if he gets the job.

Cheers,

[Sebastiaan56]

Or does your boss get to tell you what to spend his money on after he's paid you with it?

well.... ahem..... actually she does.......

[wheelinround]

I think they'd be making a much bigger deal of it if the money came from the public purse. Or does your boss get to tell you what to spend his money on after he's paid you with it?

YEP government does this constantly telling me what I can do with my money old bosses also tried it like you need new tools go buy them new uniforms go buy them a hair cut go get one.

now only gov and LOML do.

[bitingmidge]

Midge, why do you want to invade NZ. Isn't it ours already?

That's why I don't drink: in case I get the urge!

On a non-Kevvie note, another observation (standing on my holier than though soapbox) is that the blokes I have met who frequent those establishments, as opposed to the ones who've been to a bucks do or whatever, are often the ones who are overprotective of their own daughters.

There seems to me to be a certain hypocracy in their thought patterns, in that the exploitation of young women is OK as long as it's not their own. I'm not sure who's exploiting who BTW...

And on hypocracy, I think the most hypocrytical of all are those who judge a person (in this case Kevin) on what they think his private religious views mean to him. Now unless I'm mistaken, Kev hasn't actually ever said having the odd drink, or visiting a dance club, no matter how exotic that may be, is against the bounds of his religion. The only people who have done that are the ones who have made a judgement on what Kevins' religious understanding should be.

He has the same right to a religious belief that others have not to have one, and his interpretation of that belief is a matter for him, yet how quick is everyone to pounce!

Cheers,

P

[pawnhead]

He has the same right to a religious belief that others have not to have one, and his interpretation of that belief is a matter for him, yet how quick is everyone to pounce!

Presumptuous of me to assume that his Christian morals, and family ethics would frown upon getting so drunk that he couldn't remember frequenting a strip club. Of course you're right, and it's probably just par for the course for his particular brand of Christianity.

Sorry about that.

[Sebastiaan56]

I'm not sure who's exploiting who BTW...

Good point, Workchoices aside I believe there is good money to be made in that industry. We deal with a local establishment and according to the boss the girls can easily make $2k per week. The only really slow time is Ramadan,

I havent been in the media today but this morning Abbott refused to put the boot in, as did Costello, They are probably afriad that there may be something in their past as well. The old glass houses thing.

Great point about interpretation of religious belief,

Sebastiaan

[Sturdee]

He has the same right to a religious belief that others have not to have one, and his interpretation of that belief is a matter for him, yet how quick is everyone to pounce!

Cheers,

P

I don't think visiting a strip club or drinking is a sin, but even if it was, then he is in good company for the Bible teaches that all man are sinners and the church is for sinners. If he was without sin his name would not be KR but JC.

As to going to a strip club, when I was younger, I've been to a few and have known a few strippers as well as stripclub owners, so what.

Peter.

[Gra]

the Bible teaches that all man are sinners and the church is for sinners.

So does that mean only sinners go to church????


Sorry just being mischievous.

[Studley 2436]

Well Kev has been putting the story out there that he is such a pure trustworthy guy. Churchgoer and so on. He is the one who has made a thing of his own morality. Had Hawke done it no one would have noticed much after all that was the sort of thing he had done many times before.

I wonder if the sisterhood would let say Tony Abbot get away with it the way they have with Kev? I bet they wouldn't.

I have been to a strip club and didn't notice the girls that much got drunk with the guys. It was pretty boring really. There was one other time the girls from work took me and that was fun but at the same time I remember what happened even though I was drunk and did nothing to be ashamed of. The only time I have been so drunk I can remember nothing is the couple of times I was drinking and fell asleep. I am pretty sure they do remember something of what happened but want the story to go away.

The thing I noticed the day Rudd was made leader was that he always stood aside at the door and waved Julia Gillard in first. This does not look like a leader to me. His body language was not that of a man on a mission other than trying to pose as a super gentleman. My god I was thinking you are leader you go first take the bull by the horns demand Gillard to back you up. He looked a very submissive male to me that day. I am yet to be convinced he will make any sort of PM as he appears to desire nothing other than becoming PM. When it happens what will he do with it? I don't think he has any idea.

Studley

[ozwinner]

Had a stripper come on site one time for some old dudes retirement, middle of winter, tihs it was cold.

Anyway she starts doing the biz in the half finished house, music blaring, neighbours watching curiously over the sheets of plaster board that were at the windows.

She come over to me and grabs my hands and whacks them on her bussies, Hmmm firm..but freakin freazing , I think they were frozen solid, or felt that way anyhow.

So the answer is no, the strip joint came to me..

Al

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

Been to a strip club? Yeah, many a time. I did some renos in one and on subsequent visits drinks were on the house, provided I didn't go overboard. Even with the door fee 'twas cheaper than the nearby pub, so that's where I went for lunch when I was in the area. Mind you, that place was basically a pub with a pink-bits decor, not a brothel under a different name.

I won't go to sleazies, whether it be pub or club. Not for any moral reasons, it's just that there are other places I'd rather be.

There are people who don't distinguish between the two and I've no problems with that, if they have the moral strength to live by their beliefs. Hypocritical bastards with double standards, on the other hand...

[Bleedin Thumb]

I really love this "I went to a strip joint once and found it really boring"

Yeh like I smoked a joint once but didn't inhale.

Liar Liar Pants On Fire!


Come on guys (& girls).

Having a couple of young things gyrating in your face is not boring!

You either find it embarrassing, titillating or extremely amusing (or a mixture of all of the above)


It only gets boring after you have been to them a few times too many. If you find it boring on your first visit you had best check your pulse.

[coastie]

This story was put about by that drunk that got up at some awards night,Glenn someone little bit like the pot calling the kettle black!

[Studley 2436]

I really love this "I went to a strip joint once and found it really boring"

Yeh like I smoked a joint once but didn't inhale.

Liar Liar Pants On Fire!


Come on guys (& girls).

Having a couple of young things gyrating in your face is not boring!

You either find it embarrassing, titillating or extremely amusing (or a mixture of all of the above)


It only gets boring after you have been to them a few times too many. If you find it boring on your first visit you had best check your pulse.

nah we were a long way from the stage it was grand final night and my side had been belted again my seat was at a table where it was hard to turn and see the stage. Big big crowd couldn't see the show so there you go. I was a bit bored.

Studley