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26th October 2015, 04:21 PM #46Derek, your favourite brace is one I'm still looking for, I've got a later model and also an extension with the Rose chuck but yours is the classic example.
Regards from Perth
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26th October 2015, 08:56 PM #47
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27th October 2015, 08:44 AM #48Try not to be late, but never be early.
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Vann, I'm waiting til the box of RJ bits goes into the skip too!
Geoff.
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28th October 2015, 12:25 AM #49Try not to be late, but never be early.
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On the subject of three tier Russell Jennings bit boxes Jim Bode has 16 of them listed from $US 149 - $US 395.
Two sets I've had for a few years, one box's pretty ratty and neither has a completely original set of bits, the better one, 1/2" and 9/16" are ring ins.
Cheers,
Geoff.
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28th October 2015, 02:29 AM #50
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28th October 2015, 11:00 AM #51Try not to be late, but never be early.
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Paul, have you found a set of jaws for your MF No 32 (?) yet? Because I've got a pair that I've taken everywhere with me for the last two+ years to present to you.
Geoff.
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28th October 2015, 11:55 PM #52
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31st October 2015, 09:38 AM #53
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Have you ever seen a brace case like this? I reckon it's really neat!
Enjoy the photos.
Cheers
Stew
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31st October 2015, 12:43 PM #54
http://www.theluddite.com/auger-bits.html
Gedge nose? Bull nose? Do these appear in Australia?
What about other bits like spoon bits? Geoff?
Cheers,
Paul
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31st October 2015, 02:13 PM #55
Paul
there was a set of bull nose augers on ebay about 2 weeks ago (listed in Australia)..... i think they were about $90 for six of them, all the same brand. I just had a look and they do not appear to be listed any more.
Cheers
Stewart
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1st November 2015, 11:17 AM #56Try not to be late, but never be early.
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That's a pretty handy carryall Stewart, I don't think I've seen one before, very clever use of the brace handle. Do you think the hole in the case is worn or is it just not a thick enough piece of wood?
If I was going to make myself one I reckon I'd try and fit two layers of bits inside.
Thanks for the link to the Luddite site Paul, Timeless Tools is also worth a look.
Some times the names of brace bits can vary depending on who made them. The bull nose for instance, patented by Cornelius Whitehouse of Cannock is also known as Solid Wing bit and often appear with the makers name and "unbreakable" on the shank, sometimes referred to as "Unbreakable bits". There is any amount of information available if you google Cornelius Whitehouse Cannock.
I try to label my braces and brace tools with the title given them by the manufacturer.
The term "Scotch Bit" (also Scotch brace) has nothing to do with Scotland but rather refers to the word Scotch to mean "to cut, gash or score" (Macquarie Dictionary)
The bits that I've got were gathered in Australia Paul,and you'll still find all varieties at the usual places, markets, garage sales and the like. Nose, Spoon and Shell bits are usually pretty old although I think modern spoon bits are still being made. I suspect that a lot of my Shell bits are worn Nose or Spoons that have been resharpened to Shell pattern.
Gedge pattern are Cooks pattern in the USA after Ransom Cook's patent of 1851 (8,162).
Photo's of a Solid Wing bit by Whitehouse Brothers of Cannock with the Registered No 1427. What I find interesting about this bit is the use of the RD No from perhaps the 1880's on what is a relatively modern bit.
Cheers,
Geoff.Last edited by Boringgeoff; 1st November 2015 at 11:19 AM. Reason: Just making sure.
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1st November 2015, 04:59 PM #57
Geoff
i reckon the wood was not thick enough. I will be keen to see the one you make.
While we are on the topic of brace bits. Would you know where i could get Australian made stanley russell jennings no 100, 5/16 and 15/16 bits? I have all other sizes and to fill the gaps i have got my self two U.S. made ones. Its interesting because the U.S. ones have a different screw thread on the tip, when you compare them to the aussie ones. I have attached a photo. The aussie on is on the left. Do you reckon they are differnet because the aussie ones are the titan version of the jennings augers? I understand stanley progressively took over titan in the 70's? This was the only explanation i could think of.
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Cheers stewart
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1st November 2015, 05:49 PM #58
The coarser thread is for softer woods, and the finer thread is for harder woods.
Regards from Perth
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2nd November 2015, 08:10 AM #59
interesting thread
might have to have a gander at the collection of braces down at the men's shed - the ones in the unwanted tools boxregards
Nick
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2nd November 2015, 10:31 AM #60Try not to be late, but never be early.
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Stewart, you're right about the Aussies Stanley's being originally Titans, bearing in mind what Derek said, you would expect that Titan would have made both coarse and fine pitch lead screws. When Stanley started branding these bits, Russell Jennings, they probably wouldn't have thought it necessary to adopt an American thread. Worldwide every bit manufacturer was, by this time, making RJ pattern bits which were originally patented in 1855.
I'm assuming the ones you are looking for are those with the brand inked (?) on rather than stamped.
My only suggestion would be to haunt the markets and swap meets on the lookout for them.
At the WA Woodshow a few months ago the HTPSWA sales table had a bunch of Mawhood (Sheffield England) bits that I have an incomplete set of, I bought them, took out two that I was missing, halved the price and put the remaining three back on the sale table.
As previously mentioned I've got a three tier box of American RJ bits similar to the photo of the one posted by Derek in post #44, I've been looking for two originals to replace incorrect ones for some time and expect that I will eventually find them.
February 28th 2016 is the TTTG tool sale in Sydney, well worth attending.
Sawdust Maker, we often have unwanted tools from mens sheds that the HTPSWA sell on their behalf for a percentage, perhaps your local tool club would do that, or you could list them on the market place on this forum.
Cheers,
Geoff.