Skin Cancer

[ozwinner]

using vulgar terms like "wanker", .

Read this.

Al

[Rocker]

The Mapleton-Maleny area of QLD is rather like the Nimbin area of NSW. It tends to attract people who lean towards an alternative lifestyle. If Glen Mackinnon wants to put his trust in a herbal medicament, which he claims to have cured his cancer, so be it. I am not sure how he knows that the Cansema cured it, as opposed to his undergoing a spontaneous remission. However, I am afraid I could not put much trust in a medicament, whose purveyors are determined not to submit it to scientific appraisal, and who specifically deny on their website that the medicament is claimed to cure any disease.

Rocker

[ozwinner]

Read my Sig.
You WILL be cured...........

Al

[channa]

It's working , it's working! Start a new website! Avatar-oma-gone! We guarantee it works, but we don't promise anything!

[Clinton1]

Yes, I agree that perhaps the rules of the forum should be tightened.
For example, if someone swanns in suggesting that a life-threatening medical condition should be treated:

without necessarily having to resort to " better" and "proven" medical solutions,

using a product whose promoters advice to the public is that:

These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. The products or information contained on this web site are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease

and pushed by a promoter whose methodology is:

based on prayer, intuitive genius, hard work, speaking with dedicated researchers, reading successful cancer treatises

then I reckon they should be open to the same rigorous examination that any medical treatment is.

However, if they end up having a bleat about being ganged up on and that the people that disagree with them are vulgar bullies and then warn people that they'd best watch out because of the legal offence of Slander - then I think they should shut up and grow up.

[silentC]

warn people that they'd best watch out because of the legal offence of Slander

I think that got up my nose more than anything else. I don't care what other people do - if it works for them then good. However threatening people with legal action is a cowardly response to a debate in my opinion.

[Clinton1]

Secondly, here's an ancient, indigenous, traditional Australian, and totally unproven skin cancer treatment for you to try.

What you do is sit on the steps out the front of the Surf Life Saving Club, preferably one with the word "Royal" in the name, and you get a Lifesaver to toke up on a big cigar. Ensure that you have a clear view of the surf, allowing the power of the ocean to flow through you. When the coal on the end is cherry red, blow the ash off the end with a breath that is imbued with the power of hops, barley and essence of pig and the renewal symbol - egg; stub it into the cancer and grind it around. With the right technique the cancer region is cooked, not burnt, and then you can peel it off when it scabs up a bit.

Amazingly the cancer is "gone".

You then have some time to get your affairs in order until the left over cancer cells turn malignant and spread throughout your body, eventually causing inoperable and untreatable cancer and death. BUT, there's NO SCAR!

However.... through the power of prayer, intuitive genius, hard work, speaking with dedicated researchers and reading successful cancer treatises (not successful in the way of treating cancer, more the successful in selling lots of copies at the local new-age shop way) you can die knowing, that while your children and family will miss you, that at least those nasty medical multinationals didn't snare you with their lies.

I agree, "wanker" was inappropriate. If you were only peddling this rubbish to yourself it would be appropriate, peddle it to others and a whole new range of words come into play.

Shameful is one word, irresponsible is another.

[Iain]

Morally reprehensible???

[Paper Artist]

Clinton say words of Paper Artist "Stupid idea well implemented more successful than best idea on earth never used". This good saying, shows many brains, Clinton wise to follow. But Paper Artist not remember when gave permission for quote - words copyright! Patent pending! Clinton send money, Paper Artist is happy! Not sue!

Send money for paper boulder. Not cure cancer but Paper Artist not care about problem of other person.

[RufflyRustic]

sheesh, not this old rock again

[Paper Artist]

sheesh, not this old rock again

Now only need scissors to play fun game with hands. Paper Artist play this game often. Very good but like extended version better - Rock, Paper, Scissors, Spock, Lizard. More fun! Much laughter!

[keith53]

to play fun game with hands.

Sounds like that's not all you've been playing with

[dan_tom]

Let's play a game. Let's list in one column how many cures I get told about each day, in another column let's list how much they cost (only include the unproven untested ones, just so we're not biased), how many lives were lost because they delayed or postponed evidence based treatments available, how many of the people promoting these products gain financial reward from peddling them (and quote conspiracy theories if not endorsed by authorities - let me tell you with an ageing population, the Govt would snap up a cure - just in terms of economic evaluation alone - let alone the psychosocial benefits!), then in another column lets put costs of legal action... I could go on.... but even I'm getting bored.

Now, today is Thursday - let's list the "cures" for cancer I have heard of JUST THIS WEEK :
- apricot kernels (dosed up in large enough quantities - ignore the admission to hospital for cyanide poisoning)
- sea cucumbers
- &&&&aki mushrooms
- shark cartilage (sharks don't get cancer, so lets eat sharks)
- drinking chilled cat urine (or dog or any other pet for that matter)
- electrocution :eek:

Please - a cure would be great - if only we could find it, we spend a large chunk of our days dispelling myths and less time supporting those that have cancer and are finding it really hard processing all of the information, the decisions to make along the journey and where they will be at the end of it all.

Maybe the cure is staring us in the face and is out there in nature, flapping in the breeze. Research costs money. Time is money. People with cancer don't have a lot of time and sometimes it is wasted on investing in "cures".

Cheers
Dan

[silentC]

Now, today is Thursday - let's list the "cures" for cancer I have heard of JUST THIS WEEK :
- apricot kernels

If you're in the cancer research biz, I hope you've heard of that one before!!

Interesting story actually. Classic conspiracy theory stuff.

[Clinton1]

Dan,
The urine drinker - did you tell them to up the dose and keep a diary and let you know how it went? IF you need a research subject for this I nominate ...... Ozwinner!

Paper Artist - I am still waiting for my cheque for advertising your art with my on-line presence. Think of it as a meme vector.