Help-Mouse ate my fujitsu split system head aircon electronics

[Learner]

Yeap, you'll live longer.

???????? LIES!

i NEVER LIVE LONGER WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF BEING CHEATED WITH SHODDY WORKMANSHIP.

[AV Elec]

Correct installation methods are all in the installation manual.

Well I have seen many installation manuals which tell you to do the purge method. A propper tech will evacuate the system suitably using a multistage pump.

How many aircon installers even bother to buy and use torque wrenches?

Shame! Shame! Shame!

They don't, at least from what I have seen. With a propper flare, and drop of oil, a fridgy will be able to feel the connection. The correct torque will not make up for otherwise incorrect procedures.

[Cliff Rogers]

You won't if you let it continue to bother you, get over it & move on.

[Learner]

Well I have seen many installation manuals which tell you to do the purge method. A propper tech will evacuate the system suitably using a multistage pump.

YOU MUST BE JOKING. They tell you they supply extra refrigerant for purging?

Show me those manuals?

[AV Elec]

Well if the manufactorer doesn't honor warrantee using this goo, then I would tell the mechanic to remove the system, and refund the $$. Simple. Otherwise go to fair trading.

What many people don't realise with AC systems, is dodgy work will often allow the unit to work fine in the short term (albeit not as efficient). The problem is inside the system things are happening, and it could be the difference between lasting 3 years, or 20 years fault free. Think about that when there is a difference in the install quote is a couple of hundred dollars...

[AV Elec]

YOU MUST BE JOKING. They tell you they supply extra refrigerant for purging?

Show me those manuals?

I am not joking.

I was an AC mechanic for 10 years, but left 6 years ago. Believe me, there are manuals which say that... Not that we followed them, we just did it the old fashioned way. I was predominately in service/maintenance. I would have installed less than a couple of dozen splits.

I don't even think Artick licence was established then. At least it wasn't inforced as I never got certified. No one ever asked me to do so.

[bitingmidge]

???????? LIES!

i NEVER LIVE LONGER WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF BEING CHEATED WITH SHODDY WORKMANSHIP.

Interesting!

Did you take the cheapest quote?

P

[Learner]

Well I have seen many installation manuals which tell you to do the purge method. A propper tech will evacuate the system suitably using a multistage pump.


They don't, at least from what I have seen. With a propper flare, and drop of oil, a fridgy will be able to feel the connection. The correct torque will not make up for otherwise incorrect procedures.

You are saying you would buy a new car which bolts have been fitted in the factory without a Torque wrench?

We all earn money honestly and expect a good worker to use the right tools and do a good job for our hard earned money.

[Learner]

Interesting!

Did you take the cheapest quote?

P

No!

[AV Elec]

I am saying I have never seen a fridgy use a torque wrench on a flare nut. I have known dozens of fridgys.

Torque wrenches were not used on flare nuts at TAFE in either the trade, or the advanced course either. Should I dust off the old notes?

Not all bolts on a car require a torque wrench anyway...

[Waldo]

Move on!

Nothing but posts whinging about air/con, globes and other carp.

Go sharpen a few chisels or do something with a bit of wood.

[sdrob]

before i start i don't to start a argument, but i have never used a torque wrench to tighten up flares on any system and have never had any problems, that is why you are ment to pressure test for leaks. as stated with practice you know when they are tight enough. properly done flares seal really well with out problems..
but on the original message i would go back to the dealer or to who ever recommened this guy and get a exlenation as to his qualifications and abilitys.. otherwise contact artick.. they are now the regulating body.. best of luck

[AV Elec]

i DO NOT LIKE AIR-CON INSTALLERS

Great sweeping generalisation...
Do you like aircon installers giving you (free) advice when you ask for it??

[Learner]

I am saying I have never seen a fridgy use a torque wrench on a flare nut. I have known dozens of fridgys.

Torque wrenches were not used on flare nuts at TAFE in either the trade, or the advanced course either. Should I dust off the old notes?

Not all bolts on a car require a torque wrench anyway...

Who was your teacher. Name of your Tafe please?

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[Learner]

before i start i don't to start a argument, but i have never used a torque wrench to tighten up flares on any system and have never had any problems, that is why you are ment to pressure test for leaks. as stated with practice you know when they are tight enough. properly done flares seal really well with out problems..
but on the original message i would go back to the dealer or to who ever recommened this guy and get a exlenation as to his qualifications and abilitys.. otherwise contact artick.. they are now the regulating body.. best of luck

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