Connecting fluros to 3pt plugs

[echnidna]

ps its good to be back work has settled and life is goood
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Good to see you back Jules.

The radio, TV and electronics bit is interesting as most electricians can't do that sorta work. So there is an oddity in the regs somewhere.

Another odd thing is some appliances such as wall mounted hot water urns are a technicians field as they are a combination of plumbing and electrical that would stymie most sparkies or plumbers.

[doug the slug]

Here it is although it is now known as "AS/NZS 3000:2000 Wiring Rules"
http://www.standards.com.au/PDFTemp/...3000/N3000.pdf

I can't find anywhere in there that mentions about legality of who does the work.

Thats great stuff, i just spent 10 minutes scrolling through the 16 page document that link takes you to. Its the 16 page index of the document that the last page tells you how to buy. it doesnt shed any light on the argument at all.

It seems nobody can find any reference at all that tells me i cant wire up my own lights as long as they arent plugged in when i work on them

[ozwinner]

No. If it is mains powered (440v, 240v or 110v) you are supposed to get a licensed electrician to do it. This includes wiring lights that are to be connected to a mains supply. If anything happens and it is found out that you did the wiring connection yourself all liability will be placed on you.

Not so Rowan.
Anyone can wire up 240v if it is not hard wired, ie, if it has a flex.
So if you want to wire up stuff that plugs into a 240v outlet, you can do it.

Al

[doug the slug]

Not so Rowan.
Anyone can wire up 240v if it is not hard wired, ie, if it has a flex.
So if you want to wire up stuff that plugs into a 240v outlet, you can do it.

Al

Thanks, Al,
but just to qualify it a little, you can do it on your own equipment for yourself, not commercially, and that seems to be where the confusion is

[Wood Butcher]

OK, made a couple of phone calls to sparkie mates to get the inside scoop, here it is -

There is nothing stopping you from wiring something portable up yourself, the legislation gets a little murky on this. BUT.....

You may not use it in a commercial situation without it being tested and tagged by a licensed operator. ALSO...
If anything happens and it can be proved that you, as a unlicensed person, carried out the work, your insurer most likely will void your insurance and if there is any other damages you could be held liable for them too.

So, if you do the work I can't find anything to say definatively that you can or can't, but be prepared for the consequences if anything bad happens as a result!

[doug the slug]

4 hours ago you posted:

Australian Standard only details how to wire it up. It has NOTHING to do with the legality of doing electrical wiring. IT IS ILLEGAL to do any work on electrical goods in Australia unless you are a licensed contractor!

then 2 hours ago:

Here it is although it is now known as "AS/NZS 3000:2000 Wiring Rules"
http://www.standards.com.au/PDFTemp/...3000/N3000.pdf

I can't find anywhere in there that mentions about legality of who does the work.

2 posts that had nothing to do with the legalities of the outcome but still telling the world i didnt know what i was talking about, and then!!!!! hey what happened to doing the research befoe we post????

OK, made a couple of phone calls to sparkie mates to get the inside scoop, here it is -

There is nothing stopping you from wiring something portable up yourself,.

thank you!!!!

an apology would be nice, i did PM you earlier but you seem to have run off with your tail between your legs

[Wood Butcher]

Please add the last bit from my reply not just the bit that makes me sound like an idiot.

So, if you do the work I can't find anything to say definatively that you can or can't, but be prepared for the consequences if anything bad happens as a result!

[ozwinner]

I closed this thread after Woodbutcher re-opened it.
Personal attacks will not be tolerated from anyone.
Not everyone knows everything about everything, thats what make this forum so entertaining, lets keep it that way.


Al

[ubeaut]

If you have to ask, you obviously don't know what you're doing, whether you're licenced or not or whether you need to be licenced or not, isn't the point.

The point is this: If you have to ask you shouldn't be doing it.....

When you burn down your house, shock yourself into a coma or kill someone remember this......... IT'S YOUR BLOODY FAULT!

If you have to ask and it all goes wrong, prepare yourself for the consequences they will be serious.

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If you have to ask DON'T!!!

If you have to ask..... ask for the name of a good electrician.
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