David Hicks

[Sturdee]

Bruce,

I have been known to be very critical of the USA, I totally agree with many of their foreign policies and I think that a lot of the world's hatred against them is brought about by themselves.

But in this case they can do what they like with him. When Hicks left and joined another country's army IMO he lost any rights to sympathy or support from us. He is IMO a traitor to this country and should be stripped of his citizenship.

The PC claptrap we keep hearing from the doogooders about how he was misguided, foolish and silly sickens me. Let him rot where he is.


Peter.

[bitingmidge]

I see it this way, Aussie Bloke whether a dixhead or not

Well you see Bruce, that's what prompted me to kick off this thread. We are the only ones stupid enough to call him Aussie.

He doesn't want to be one.

He wasn't all that good at being an Afghani it would appear, so he remembered he was actually a Pom.

Cheers,

P

[Grunt]

Well you see Bruce, that's what prompted me to kick off this thread. We are the only ones stupid enough to call him Aussie.

He doesn't want to be one.

He wasn't all that good at being an Afghani it would appear, so he remembered he was actually a Pom.

Cheers,

P

If his guilt is beyond doubt, why not give him a fair trial in a timely manner? He'll be found guilty and punished accordingly. It concerns me that the U.S. is bent on trying him in what amounts to a Kangaroo Court.

Having a photo of someone with a grenade thrower doesn't make him guilty. There was a photo recently of an AWB boss with an AK-47 in his mits when he was in Iraq. Did that make him a terrorist?

The reason why he won't be brought back to Australia for trial is that he hasn't broken any Australian law. We've since changed the law but at the time it was not an offence.

[Grunt]

I hope for those that are happy to have people kept in jail without charge, without hope of a fair trial that they or their children don't find themselves in in similar circumstances.

[Gra]

he remembered he was actually a Pom.
P

I dont think he remembered he was a pom, he just became one, because our govt is so far up the US govt !@##$, that it cant stand up to them, whereas the pommies did and their people are home now.

My thoughts are he was a @#$head, but no-one deserves to be stuck in a prison for an unlimited term with no trial. Give him an open and legal trial and then do what you like with him, these kangaroo courts they are looking at setting up are just wrong..

I am sure if he gets off, he can always suddenly dissapear, it isnt as if the US hasnt done that before...

[bitingmidge]

Now let's say a blue team follower was without reference to the team, to deface and iconic statue owned by the maroon team, or worse fly a plane into one or two of it's office buildings. I'd reckon the maroon team would want to do battle with the whole blue team and knock their socks off. That would happen even if the blue team didn't sanction any part of it, and they'd have to talk really quickly, specially if the maroon team had missiles ready to destroy their weapons of mass destruction.

What happens of course is the Maroon team gives the blue team a right old flogging, and so the miscreant has to sit it out for a year to see what will happen next year!



P

[Groggy]

There was a photo recently of an AWB boss with an AK-47 in his mits when he was in Iraq. Did that make him a terrorist?

No, but it does increase the odds somewhat...

[E. maculata]

Unfortunately, while not being a cynic par se' I'm extremely cynical of mainstream populist media (been misrepresented grossly without permission or recourse once myself in a 15 minutes of fame sorta fiasco). And I absolutely do not and unless proven beyond doubt to be wrong, and will not believe any of the cwap that G.W & Bonsai are sprouting about the Afghani/Iraq operations (they were/are mongrels, but who financed & trained & installed them in trhe first place...Mmmmmm, hadta stop those pesky commies in the 80's), did anyone actually tell the afghani people we were at war with them?, how would they have known? radio, newspaper, TV. I'm not quite that stupid.
The superpower, powers that be in question will use any means to vindicate their "cause", one Australian, more or less is what? in the scheme of things?.

Don't like Bullies never will, no matter what the colours of the Flag they fly, Patriotism is also well documented to be the last refuge of scoundrels whom have no other defence for their actions.
Like the man says Give him a fair trial, lets see how big a wakka he is or isn't, so far all I see is his Dad, trying any trick he can think of to free his boy, wouldn't we all do the same.
Family before politicians anytime, especially the current crop of zealots from either side, racing to see who sacrifice their citizens rights first. Have always thought if pollies had to lead the charge from the bunkers there would always be "diplomatic" solutions to every problem.
This is my opinion I will stand corrected if history proves me wrong.

This is the crux of my argument G.W Bush is not a good & honorable person.

[Greg Ward]

Whenever anyone spouts religiosity, uses the word 'God' to show how honourable they are or believes they hold the high moral ground ...................... watch out.

And that refers to all sides of this argument.

Hicks.

Simple.
He is a prisoner of war and is being held as such. You don't release prisoners of war as they could possibly re-enter the action again.
........Yes I know....... The Genva convention......... Let's wait until the war finishes.

The war continues, so he and his fiends (sorry friends) can stay there until it is over.

That may take some time

Greg

[Zed]

im reluctant to enter this debate , but in a "war against terror" where the combatitants are zealots rather than nation states, the war could and I hazard a guess, will take forever. thus mr hicks and his ilk may spend a fair whack of thier breathing time in a cube, much of it without a trial. this is grossly unfair in any circumstance, try him and convict then select an appropriate punishment if relevant. dont let him rot without justice.

earth would be better off without humans. "Chimps for Dominant species!"

[bitingmidge]

try him and convict t

I thought we were doing that right now. (Not in any particular order)

The reason why he won't be brought back to Australia for trial is that he hasn't broken any Australian law. We've since changed the law but at the time it was not an offence.

And here was I thinking it was because he was captured by the Seppos. Note "captured" not "arrested".

Why should he be brought back here for trial? Why should he have a different status to any other tourist? Schapelle et al weren't brought back for trial!

I hope for those that are happy to have people kept in jail without charge, without hope of a fair trial that they or their children don't find themselves in in similar circumstances.

I've told all my kids that it's not wise to seek military training in remote camps of foreign powers that may one day be considered a threat to "the free world", and so far they seem to have listened.

If he'd been arrested outside Woolies Parramatta in broad daylight and held without charge, I'd have a different view.

Cheers,

P

[silentC]

Yep no one to blame but himself. As ye sow, so shall ye reap. He's made his bed, he can lie in it. Live by the sword, die by the sword. A rolling stone gathers no moss. Great oaks from small acorns grow. A bird in the hand is better than having to look at George W. Bush. You know I'm right.

[craigb]

I'm surprised that it's taken so long for this topic to pop up on the board.

IMO Hicks is a d'head who suffered from a bad case of Short Bloke Syndrome (SBS).

However, 4.5 years is too long to be held in custody without charge.
He should be charged tried before a fair court and if convicted punished accordingly.

What's that saying? "Justice delayed is justice denied"?

I also think that Midge is just indulging in that good old Aussie pastime of Stirring the Possum.

[silentC]

that good old Aussie pastime of Stirring the Possum

Let's hope they never make that a crime :eek:

[bitingmidge]

I also thing that Midge is just indulging in that good old Aussie pastime of Stirring the Possum.

Moi? :eek: :eek: :eek:

Oh no! If I'd been doing that, I'd have painted the picture of Hicks greeting those Seppo soldiers with a cry of:

"Thank God you're here!"

ooops!

P