Drawing Attention...

[Gaza]

hey i am new to selling on ebay, i just lsited an item but when i searched for it could not find it any where, in myebay the item is in the listed section..... whats going on...

[Greg Q]

Very nice thread hijack. Really good. What's the item number?

[Greg Q]

Often get the same in Canberra with the round-a-bouts, especially the big ones, you see a car waiting as you make your way around it then when you are getting close they then decide to enter the round-a-bout.

I read an article once by a Neurologist who described this kind of behaviour. It can be the result of an old head injury, and I gather it isn't uncommon. My brother, for example, does this sometimes, and its very scary to watch. He doesn't even know that he's doing anything wrong.

[ozwinner]

hey i am new to selling on ebay, i just lsited an item but when i searched for it could not find it any where, in myebay the item is in the listed section..... whats going on...

Huh?

Al :confused:

[redwood]

It amazes me, the people who draw attention to themselves when they should be keeping a low profile.


Dan

Spoken like a true copper at least you blokes know how to keep your dodgy activities away from public view well sort of, bit like the off duty cop from the training school in vic who recently took the work car home and as pizzed as a fart smashed it up and decided we are all morons so he called it in stolen to fool every one. well it didnt work but thats isolated and most cops are good blokes just like the good ones from the old drug and majors at least vic pol wont need a fitzgerald or wood inquiry cause their all nice blokes and wouldnt dream of driving in an unregistered or heaven forbid park in a disabled bay, or even enjoy the odd window shutter or 2

[Ian007]

I know that, no need to rub it in, unless you use KY heat gel then your forgiven.

Al

your sick :eek::eek:

[Sturdee]

I have a frequent 0530 sit at a red right turn arrow with no oncoming traffic. That's simply unnecessary in this age of cheap processor control.

Around my way that is done on purpose.

The council insisted that Vic Roads program their computers that way in order to " Educate " drivers to use their preferred way of accessing and leaving the Eastern freeway. That it has no effect and is annoying the local residents doesn't seem to matter to them.


Peter.

[journeyman Mick]

I did a training course which included some emergency procedures (locking brakes at 60kmh and 80kmh) in a 16 tonne 4wd firetruck with the driver's seat more than 2M off the ground :eek: . Seriously hairy stuff! Lots of body roll and sway. I usually drive with a minimum of 3 seconds gap and add more if the road is wet/I've got a trailer on/heavy load on/in a truck etc etc. Never tail ended anyone (yet) and if some idiot wants to slip into the gap, well, he's in a hurry to have an accident so I just let them be.

Mick

[Studley 2436]

I just noticed that I hijacked this thread

NEVER done that before

It was about idiots who draw attention to themselves and then get more of their crimes exposed.

But it turned into a tailgating and everyone else is an idiot and that is why I can't drive safely.

Studley

[Daddles]

I just noticed that I hijacked this thread

NEVER done that before

You evil, evil man Studley

Richard

[Studley 2436]

yeah must be a real mongrel

I am going out to find some grumpy old git to tailgate then I am going to pass him and chop in front so he has to hit his brakes.

Maybe I should do it to a copper to prove Dans point about idiots drawing attention to themselves.

Studley

[chrisp]

But how do you get the guy behind you to maintain a 2 second gap?

silent,

At my work, a work colleague who was a driving instructor for a car club explained to 2-second gap in greater detail. He talked about the dynamic and static safety zones (my terminology - the driving instructor may have used different terms).

The 2-second gap is the dynamic safety zone (i.e. leave a 2 second gap between you and the next car). If someone is tailgating you (i.e. not allowing a 2 second gap), then what you do is add their 2 seconds on to your dynamic safety zone - i.e. you open up your safety zone to 4 seconds. This allows you to gently brake if sometime untold should happen ahead and allows the person tailgating a chance to brake without hitting you.

The static safety zone was used when stopping behind another car. The guideline allow sufficient space so that you can see the where the (rear) tyres of the car in front are in contact with the road. This gap is to ensure that you can manoeuver your car out of the lane should you find the car ahead connot move, or if someone behind looks like running into the back of your car.

Chris

[HappyHammer]

Not a bad option Chris but who's got time to think about all of that stuff. All you have to do is turn on your rear fog lamps when they're really close then watch the blue smoke as they lock up their front wheels :eek: :eek:

If you're really stupid (no comment on my qualification here) you can brake test them properly with a quick dab on the brakes and then hit the accelerator:eek:

HH.

[rrich]

Yeah, we have that sport here, too.

For real atrocity I recommend a drive on one of our freeways: Motorcyclists pass between cars, driving on the lane markers. I'd love to see 'em try that on the 405

Greg

They do it all the time. Usually scares the poop out of me. ESPECIALLY when they are going 25 MPH faster than the traffic in either lane.

BTW - Lane splitting (As it is called here) is completely legal. I would assume that it is legal in Australia also. The wording in the vehicle code is something like this: A vehicle overtaking another vehicle must use the traveled portion of the highway. (i.e. It is illegal to use the sholder or center median for the purpose of over taking.)

[rrich]

With this rule who is at fault if they collide??

There are two rules that apply.
1) The vehicle that LEGALLY enters the intersection first has the right of way.
2) The key words 'Provided that it is safe to do so' also apply.

In this case the motocycle had the green light so he was in the intersection legally. The car making the right turn on red violated the motorcycle's right of way AND made the right turn when it was unsafe.

On two counts, the car was at fault. HOWEVER, should they have collided the motorcycle rider probably would have been dead. (60 KPH on a bike, hitting a virtually motionless vehicle.) Fault really doesn't matter much, dead is dead.

To add further confusion about turning on red. There are some places that legally permit a left turn on a red light if you are turning FROM a one way street into another one way street. The one way street that you are turning into must be one way from right to left from your perspective.