The Climate Change Hoax

[Tccp123]

" Originally Posted by FenceFurnitureI couldn't be fagged participating in this thread any more - it's just giving it oxygen (unless something really has to be refuted as complete tosh).



Well it didn't take too long for the tosh to rear its head."

Agreed

[aldav]

Glad to see that we're all in agreement about that then. Now let's talk about religion, where we'll be able to thrash out not only which is the 'correct' one but also whether any of them have any merit at all. Go.


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Now let's talk about religion

NO!

[FenceFurniture]

Are you seriously suggesting that NASA has concocted that article? You did see that it was from NASA didn't you? Given that you raised these points:
"Have you considered that they might have some skin in the game?"
"And that they might fudge the figures 'just a little' to enhance their position?"

..how about you provide evidence of your assertions. Or are they baseless, and just thrown into the rhetoric like a bomb to inflame the debate?

Oops, no response to any of that.

For a start, rock pools (in my extensive experience of the Cronulla suite of 4 pools - 100s of visits) generally rely on waves changing the water over, not the tides as such - the walls of the pools are above normal high tide levels - for good reason.

Evidence to support arguments is paramount.

So, here is my supporting evidence.

This is Towradgi Rock Pool, from Google Maps. (all satellite images are labelled as 2020, but could be up to 5 years old, so sea levels may not be accurate ).
Towradgi.JPG

Note how the pool (at the top of pic) sticks out past the high tide mark in the sand (easily seen on the left, exactly halfway up the sand strip). Then of course there is the step up to the concrete surround from the sand which would presumably be at least 250mm, but perhaps tccp123 can say more accurately what the step up in the north western corner is.


Here is South Cronulla Rock Pool.
Cronulla.JPG

That looks to be about a 60-70cm step up from the rocks on the left to the top of the concrete wall. You can see some still water pooling on the left about 2/3 the way up the pic. That will be the absolute maximum (normal) high tide mark, but is more likely to have been left there by wave action at high tide - see last pic in this post (which means the water will reach higher than the high tide mark).


Here is Oak Park Rock Pool, the most southern of the Cronulla suite.
Oak Park.JPG

Once more, it can be seen that the pool is above the high tide mark. The northern edge of this pool is actually natural rock, not concrete at all, and is close to a metre higher than the concrete walls.


This is how the water gets changed - by wave action, not tidal action. (South Cronulla pool again)
Water change.JPG
(labelled "Photo - Sep 2019 Jose Maria Molina Alias"



Tccp123, was it low, high or mid tide when you were last at Towradgi, making your observations?

[Tccp123]

Glad to see that we're all in agreement about that then.

Yes that one's run its course I think. But religion seems like a murkier subject... What about the Paris Accord? Any views on America's withdrawal from it?

[DavidG]

Yes that one's run its course I think.

I agree.
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