Absurd secret rules

[Claw Hama]

Thats it, i'm not comming back!!! Too many rules

[Cliff Rogers]

Thats it, i'm not comming back!!! Too many rules

Hooroo Bruce.

[Claw Hama]

Ohh, I got lonely, I'm back We have rules? its all about morality I'm sure

[Cliff Rogers]

Ohh, I got lonely, I'm back We have rules? its all about morality I'm sure

...or the fact that we will talk about you behind your back.

[Master Splinter]

So I take it then, that linking to the Renovate Forums would be a no-no, then?

We could always look at the linking practices of other forums, such as the forum often considered to be the original user-generated content web forum, Slashdot.org.

Slashdot allows linking to anywhere, and considering that they get a few orders of magnitude more traffic than the Woodwork Forums, it doesn't seem to have done them any harm.

Looking at traffic stats (from Alexa below) it would seem the greatest hopping off point after here is Google. By any logic, then, links including a Google reference should be banned!

On the incoming side, we should ask Digg to remove the link they have pointing here, along with the CNC Forum link that leads here. The Candlepower forums are doing it, too...oh, and so is that 4wd Forum, and the Festool Owners Group, and the Woodworkers Institute Forums.....

http://www.alexa.com/site/linksin/woodworkforums.com

From a web search optimisation point of view, the only real no-no is too many links to disreputable sites that are part of a link farm (basically a mutual admiration society with the sole purpose of increasing googlerank), and on a site with real content (as opposed to sites full of quickly scraped kruft with a mAkE KRAzy MoNEy!! attitude) even that doesn't make too much difference.

If it is still seen as a problem, simply wrap each URL on the site in a nofollow tag.

[Sturdee]

What a lot of hot air over nothing.

The owners have the right to edit/alter/modify/delete any post they see fit. That's why it is their forum. They pay the bills, we don't.

They have set out some rules that will definitely see posts being modified but apparently not all. So what.

If you like them enjoy the forum as it is, if not leave but continuing debating this is by now purely esoteric wanking.


Peter.

[Master Splinter]

...the problem with the ''edit/alter/modify/delete any post they see fit" approach is that if you do enough things for reasons that your user base can't understand, you end up alienating your users and over time your content generation mechanism goes away.

I think the problem is (1) that it is an unwritten rule and (2) that it comes from a misunderstanding of link farms.

Anyway, I happen to enjoy wanking (but I don't know if I get esoteric about it)!

[ubeaut]

Amazing how much hot wind and absolutely misinformed guff can be generated over pretty well nothing.

There is no written rule and won't be. This issue is about links back to other forums cross links to other forums and have nothing to do with the terms link-backs or cross-linking. These were allowed for many years and I for one had no problem with them even though many of the forums linked to wouldn't allow links back to these forums because of their hard and fast rules or they were threatened by this forum and it's growth.

This changed somewhat when some people started to abuse this and links were used for the wrong reasons eg farming members for new forums, and stalkers carrying over slander and fights from one forum to here and back to other forums. There have been many, many abuses of cross linking to other forums and so they have to certain extent been moderated.

I don't have a problem with most links to other forums especially if it's to a particular thread that's relative to the thread it's posted in and not a post for no reason another than to link to another forum home page which can be used for farming members. Even then there's not really any reason to delete links to forums that have nothing to do with woodwork.

Rather than having hard and fast rules I prefer that the mods and admin use common sense and fairness. They moderate this forrum really well and very fairly keeping them free from link farming, , spam, slander, personal attacks and much much more that most members never ever see and they do it day in and day out to keep these forums a pleasant place to visit.

weelin, as for link-backs or cross-linking you're way wrong, the forums aren't penalised for having too many links quite the opposite, more we have both in and out the better for us.

Don't try and second guess me with what you think I will do with comments like this one "That is the reason it will be come a rule for this forum correct." as you'll be dead wrong

Master Splinter, Renovate Forum was split from these forums as you well know and is still a big part of Woodwork Forums via the RSS feeds.

This is about Woodwork Forums not Slapshot or any other forum. Don't care what they do or don't do or how they run their show. It has absolutely nothing to do with here. We give everyone more than a fair go with links.

Don't believe everything you find on alexa or any other site that supposedly monitor others. They're often way off the mark in more ways than one. But you're dead right links in or out definitely don't hurt the forums.

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The one rule covers this situation and many others is the one posted above by Big Shed and repeated below:
The owner, administrators and moderators of this Forums reserve the right to delete any message or members for any or no reason whatsoever.

For more reading on links to other forums have a look here. It's all been done before (Feb 07 last time) and probably will be again.

Neil

[.RC.]

Thank you for clearing up the matter and saying we can posts links to other forums provided the link is to a site relevant to the thread discussion and not spam or disruptive..

[ubeaut]

Thank you for clearing up the matter and saying we can posts links to other forums provided the link is to a site relevant to the thread discussion and not spam or disruptive..

Links to other forums will always be checked and if deemed to be unsuitable will either be deactivated or removed as with all links. Links to forums who won't allow links back to these forums will be dealt with as well. Seems petty but there's more to it than meets the eye an I'm not about to go into that here.

Most deletions and edits are done because member report them. These forums are run by the members as much as the mods, admins, or anyone else so if anyone thinks a link might be a bit sus then it probably will be. Contact a moderator or administrator if you're unsure and ask if it's ok. Then there shouldn't be a problem.