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29th March 2009, 09:33 PM #31
Congrats on Sargent Tom.. it is one seriously nice plane
I think a full set of autoset planes is what I would go for if I was the full set kind of chap. I have a 714 that has found its way into my kit, it's light and the blade is a little thin but it just feels so good in the hand and I really like the blade adjustments.
No rust this weekend.. I visited all the haunts and didn't find as much as a chisel.
I did however find wood.
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The logs are english elm thanks to a friendly arborist.. I'm hoping to get them roughed down tomorrow and sealed if I'm lucky I'll get four nice table legs out of them.
The burls came from... get this, a garage sale
English elm is lovely stuff but damn it smalls bad.. it's like turning a fresh t*rdBest regards, Luban
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30th March 2009, 11:56 AM #32
more junk
Well done scribblygum. I've seen Sargents around but dont know enough about them to venture and buy one. I shall do some research.
I was trying to figure out how the adjustments worked and found this link
http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/ads...3?type=sargent
(I'm sure you dont need this if you have a full set, but for those of ius who dont know anything about them)
I had the same problem last week Luban, no tools. But nice score on the wood.
Its amazing what you find in garage sales.
This Sunday was a ittle different tho. Lots of rust.
Fairly bog standard fare, but I was happy with the rabone level no113, gilpin adze pat. 27 and the little pencil sharpener. Again not a fortune ($33 the lot).
Couple of q's for the more knowledgable tho.
The red handled saw says made in sweden but has no Manufacturers mark. any Ideas? and plastic handles on titans,(cheaper set?)
Cheers
Dee
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30th March 2009, 01:02 PM #33
Hi Dee. Nice scores there.. $33 would have been a fair price for the adze alone.
Those little pencil sharpeners are great. I always grab them when I see them and mount them around the shop at strategic locations. I also buy HB's by the box and staple them around the place.. nothing worse than wasting precious shed time hunting for a pencil.
Nice level too.. pretty good haul imho
I'm pretty sure the saw is a Sandvik.Best regards, Luban
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30th March 2009, 01:25 PM #34
I was going to suggest that the saw was a Sandvik as well.
I have used one and it was a good saw with a very slippery handle once my hands got sweaty.
Thanks for the link re Sargents Dee.
Much appreciated.
Here is one of the pix that you supplied - probably the best to show the Sargent 700 series and its parts.
Nice wood Luban.
Cheers to all
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
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30th March 2009, 04:02 PM #35Senior Member
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Plastic Handle Titans
Hi Dee
The plastic handled Titans were sold in two styles - a "Firmer Butt, Plastic Handle" and a "Firmer, Plastic Handle". So you had the choice of the longer or shorter versions, both with a bevelled edge. This info from a 1960's MacPherson's catalogue, they did not show up in the 1955 catalogue
I got one from a carpenter friend who said they were an excellent chisel and kept their edge well. He also liked the red handle which made them easier to find on job sites.
Cheers
5T
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31st March 2009, 12:45 AM #36
thanks for the info
Thanks for the info guys.
This is such a good website!
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5th April 2009, 05:46 PM #37Senior Member
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Ok so its not quite Sunday yet, but here's what I found and what I did with them.
The bevelled edged is 7/8" and its the thickest bevelled edged I have found. Thicker than 1" ones I have.
The other two are 3/8" and 1/2". In the after shot I laid them on their sides... do you think they are mortice chisels?
All are titans.
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5th April 2009, 06:56 PM #38Senior Member
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Mortice Chisels
Hi Tom
I have taken a quote from the "Dictionary of Woodworking Tools" by R A Salaman to define a mortise chisel. This 546 page book covers the period c. 1700 - 1970 and I have found it to be a wonderful source for identifying tools.
"Chisel, Mortising: A general term for various Chisels used for mortising. All have an extra strong blade, a stout handle to take the blows of the Mallet, and the blades are characterised by being thicker back-to-front than other Chisels, in order to resist bending when levering out the waste in a deep mortice."
That being said, it is also true than in more modern times Chisels are sometimes described as Mortise Chisels if they are made of reasonably thick steel i.e. they are more square in section than rectangular. I have included a photo of some heavy duty and lighter mortise chisels to illustrate the 'wedge' shape of a traditional Mortising Chisel
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5th April 2009, 07:02 PM #39Senior Member
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maybe they are just heavy firmers. i have another titan in same size as one ofthose i have shown but its much thinner, and more "dainty".
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5th April 2009, 09:33 PM #40
You Sir... Are a scoundral...
See this image VERY BOTTOM RIGHT for explanation. I am a keen Brades collector. Am yet to ever even lay eyes on a Brades Cattledog of any form, mumble grr mumble...
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5th April 2009, 09:43 PM #41
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6th April 2009, 10:17 PM #42
Got this Stanley 80 on the weekend. I swapped it with a guy I know for an old DVD player that I was thinking of throwing out anyway Pretty sweet pick up I reckon. It tuned up perfectly and I've already been using it. Only problem is the colour. I think his Grandad used to paint all his tools so noone could flog them. There's a little chip out of it which shows japanning (I think; the chip's tiny and the paint is quite thick).
MY question is, should I leave it how it is and not strip the paint in case the japanning is in bad condition (whch I don't want to do as I like my tools in their original condition)
and then
How could I strip the paint without ruining the japanning.
By the way dos anyone know anything about these? It doesn't look that old and there's little information online.
Not a bad score though!!
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7th April 2009, 01:52 PM #43SENIOR MEMBER
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Is that what they call a scraper plane?
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7th April 2009, 02:56 PM #44
Nice score E of K
The 80 is a wonderfully simple and effective tool, once you have the swing of it you will wonder how you ever lived without one.
No exciting rust again for me this weekend.. but I did get a parcel today that is gloat worthy I think.
An apron from Steve at ToolbagsPLUS arrived in a 500gram satchel. I'm very pleased with it.
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It is well lined and feels very substantial while being light enough to not feel like you have something hanging around your neck (something I have always disliked about aprons) even LOML who is textile orientated raised an eyebrow and had to comment on the quality of the material. It fits well, all I had to tell Steve was 6'1" and 80kg.
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The pockets are well placed, two pockets on the thighs that easily take a heavy block plane (65 pictured) and two pockets on the hips just the right height for keeping your hands warm while you stand and stare at your work piece wondering how the hell you managed to cut that part 2mm short.
Four good spots for pencils and markers on the heart (I can't remember if Steve asked me if I was right handed) just the right size to take your markers (the last apron I had the things were too deep and if you put a pencil in their you'd have to take it off and shake the thing to get them out again.
You can probably tell that I'm impressed.. To be completely honest an apron is the last thing in the shop that I am concerned about, but now that I wear one that has obviously been put together by a woodworker with all those little issues worked out for me before I even knew that they were issues I realize that this thing will make my shop time an easier and more enjoyable experience. Think of when you were starting out and you realized that your workbench was not a table in the shed but a very important tool and needed to be just so, similar epiphany here.
The only mod that I will definitely make is a bit of cork stuffed down the bottom of the pencil pockets so that I can keep Derek's marking knives in there (they have been looking for a permanent home)
Thanks Steve
I'll do a proper review when I have been wearing it for a while but I thought photos were in order before I got it filthy.Best regards, Luban
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7th April 2009, 03:51 PM #45
I have just returned from my 'suddenly I'm unemployed' trip of NSW North Coast. Got caught in the floods, rescued SIL from flood waters INSIDE Coffs Harbour, visited Terry Gordon ... I could get used to this!
I bought a Mathieson slick, a 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" mortice chisel from the collectables barn behind the Bangalow pub and a few large old screwdrivers and a Stanley 79 from the antique shop in Macksville.
Will post pics of chisels etc when cleaned up a bit and below is my $65 Stanley ...