Cigarette Smoke Detectors

[echnidna]

So maybe they should smoke in the toilets and pee outside the windows

[Pulse]

What do you do if your partner starts smoking?

Slow down....!

Cheers Pulse

[m2c1Iw]

I enjoy urinating. Mind if I come to your office and urinate on your desk. .

Only if I can smoke my montecristo in your office and stub it out on your desk

Actually I am a smoker and I can't stand passive smoke either, I once had to endure a cigar smoker sitting behind me on a flight to south america boy it nearly cured me
Have to say there must be a way to accommodate us poor sods via proper ventilation etc. and people should not have to investigate smoke detectors and the like in their workplace.

[Buzza]

What do you do if your partner starts smoking?

Slow down....!

Cheers Pulse

WHY?

Don't you like the smell of burning rubber?

[weisyboy]

i think we have found out who the smokers are!
you can go ahead and kill yourselvs!
joust keep the hel away from me.


one of my farthers best freinds was a chain smoker and he lived to the right fold age of 90.


i forgot to mention he spent the last 10 years of his life bed riden and on a ventilator.

[Buzza]

So, weisyboy, your web is still under construction. Too many smoko's??

I will look in from time to time.

[Honorary Bloke]

one of my farthers best freinds was a chain smoker and he lived to the right fold age of 90.

i forgot to mention he spent the last 10 years of his life bed riden and on a ventilator.

But ahh . . . the first 80 years!

[weisyboy]

he was sick for many years before he became bed ridden.

you mean not enouf smoko's

[Pricey]

Maybe you could approach the health and safety rep or dept about the issue. Also i'm sure that if the legal ramifications of an employer especially a large one were understood then something may be done. I know that all Rio Tinto companies are removing smoking areas and banning smoking from all sites.

[soundman]

All the pro and anti smoking positions aside.
Obviously the interior of this building IS a mandated smoke free area.
So it should be totaly free from the stinking stuff.

My wife had a similar situation at a previous workplace with a similar resopnse from WHS

We are now seeing a a return to WHS polocy of the past in many areas.
The first reaction to any complaint will be to deny that any problem exists and those complaining are stupid or something similar.
The hope is that those complaining will just give up and the company..... particularly the WHS manager has to do nothing.
This is typical of the current lazy b#$@$^$d management style.

I doubt that you will find any device that will reasonably detect what your nose plainly tells you is there.

If you want this problem sloved you will need to be prepared to cause the lazy B some discomfort, you must make it cost him not to act.
Is this a customer or patient area.... lots of leverage there.

this may mean putting the complaint in writing thru the correct chanels reminding him of his obligations and the provisions of the law

going over his head, making a compliant and detailing previous complaints and inaction

taking it beyond the company system by envolving the union or the relivant regulator.

but make sure you are prepared to handle the heat and you are fully conversant with the facts.

Personaly I think the answer to smoking areas is not simply shoving them outside, because the smoke is not contained and directed to a harmless discharge.

Cigarette smoke is a persistent and agressive polutant and can travel large distances and thru lots of barriers and still remain ofencive.
there is a bloke who for years has smoked a particularly pungent brew of tobaco in an industrial estateI used to work in... you can often smell it driving past on the main road at 80Kmh nearly half a klick away if the wind is right.

the answer fo these areas in my opinion is an enclosed area with exaust fan extraction and an elivated flue..... basicly a spray booth for smokers.
positive containment, controlled discharge.

now back to the anti smoking position

No personal offence intended and I know there are a number of smokers on this board who are carefull and courteous about how, when and where they smoke.
In fact I know many of them will not smoke in their own houses.

BUT
and this is directed squarely toward militant pro smokers.

There is no reasonable argument. Smoking is an unhealty, stinking filthy thing.
If you chose to smoke I have no problem with that, you have a choice.
Those arround you have no choice they must breathe the air.
Don't come bleating to me about smokers rights, you have no right to impose your stinking filthy habit on others, you have no right to endanger the health of others, you have no right to cause discomfort to others.
think you are a social outcast.....too damn right.
If you had persistent strong BO, you would be an outcast. If you had constant stinking flatulence you would be an outcast. If you were a pig and all over the floor you would be an outcast. there is no difference.
If you are a heavy smoker.....your sense of smell will be quite poor ours is just fine.

Look you know you should give it up, realy you want to give it up, there is no better time than the present...... go to the doc" see the chemist.
Give the filthy things away.
Its been discussed before.... the money from two years of smoking will buy you a shed and fill it with woodworking tools.

cheers

[Sebastiaan56]

Frankly, I fart a lot, keeps the smokers away

Sebastiaan

[echnidna]

maybe we should have a poll so we can count the wowsers

[ptc]

I'm glad i live in the bush
and pollute all the wild life for Miles around.

[Ozartisan]

For what it's worth.... Artisans Retreat will be a non smoking property.
Smokers will be allowed of course - I have no problem with them - they just won't be able to indulge while on the property.
If this action limits the number of patrons we get - so be it... what we lose on one hand I think we will gain on the other.

[echnidna]

shame on users of the cursed weed

now where'd I put me lighter??

back in a mo"