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Thread: bad day
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11th November 2012, 12:16 AM #31
You can't really tell the joke if you don't use the word German.
Its only there to trigger the word Wurst (sausage).
I guess they could have said a Man driving a VW in Berlin forgets some shopping..., but it would take longer to twig.
As I said its just there to help make the connection.
Nothing there at all to classed as racist. Germans (and Dutch) eat Wurst, Aussies eat sausages.
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11th November 2012, 08:52 AM #32
IMHO its probably best that this tread is closed
The person who never made a mistake never made anything
Cheers
Ray
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11th November 2012, 11:00 AM #33
Peter, I have to strongly disagree with you. The German word for 'sausage' is Wurst, so putting Germans and Wurst together is something you'll find in any butcher shop in Berlin, as well as any German/English translation dictionary anywhere in the world.
Accusing someone of being racist is implying that their words or actions were in some way infering that a particular group of people were in some way inferior or superior, neither of which seem to be the case. In fact, more people would have sympathy for the OP, and take offence that you have labelled someone as being racist.Too many projects, so little time, even less money!Are you a registered member? Why not? click here to register. It's free and only takes 37 seconds!Doing work around the home? Wander over to our sister site, Renovate Forum, for all your renovation queries.
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11th November 2012, 11:19 AM #34
I agree. But before it is closed I would like to apologise unreservedly to Sturdee, and anyone else offended. I am most sincerely sorry that I posted something that offended you. Had you PM'ed me your grievance, I would have deleted my post immediately, had you reported it for moderation I would have asked for it to be deleted if I caught wind of the problem. Either of which measures would have short circuited the current fiasco. As it turned out you assailed my character with accusations of racism (a word without degrees mind you) and the thread was locked before I even realised what was going on. Initially I was quite alarmed at being called a racist (which I am not for the record), but I learnt a while ago (and still sometimes forget) that I alone am responsible for my emotions, you and no one else can make me angry by saying or doing certain things. So I have chosen not to be angered by your post but let it waft past and move on. I wish that you can do the same regarding my joke.
Regards
Michael
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11th November 2012, 11:46 AM #35
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The issue comes down to whether Germans eating wurst implies some form of inferiority, and more importantly what is already in the readers head and experience.
A racist who has probably never eaten a german sausage in his life - laughs to affirm an existing screwed viewpoint.
When I laugh (or grimace) I am in effect laughing at myself because if I want the very best BBQ sausages in Perth I go to Elmar's German butcher in Mt Lawley and cook them with wood cut with a german chainsaw.
My test for a joke being racist is what would an innocent child think who has no preconception of the group in question. In the case of this joke a child would see it as a simple word play and would not associate the eating of wurst as either positive or negative.
Contrast this with jokes that directly implies mental, physical or cultural inferiority and I think we then have something to object to.
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11th November 2012, 10:36 PM #36
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As Sturdee could not post this in himself, he has asked me to do it.
It is a PM sent to Michael:
Originally Posted by Sturdee
As I wish that the apology be made publicly, can you post the above pm in the thread.
Peter.[/QUOTE]