What The...? Mystery Tool

[Bedford]

my family had a couple of old Martini Henry rifles of, I think, .450 calibre. They had two kinds of ammo one of which was the normal drawn brass case and the other was laminated (?) made of a number of thin layers of brass crimped round the projectile. If you can imagine something like a shotgun cartridge reduced at the end to fit the bullet. Clear as mud?

Like pic #3 here,
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[Boringgeoff]

I'm continually amazed at the resource that some of us have got at our fingertips.
Good one Bedford, that's exactly the one I'm talking about. Third from left, coiled brass even to the paper around the projectile. At risk of hijacking this thread I can vouch for the "ferocious recoil." One of ours had been cut down for pig hunting and when you shot a pig it stayed shot.
Now if only there was a picture of our mystery tool hanging on the belt of one of those uniformed chappies.

Geoff.

[A Duke]

One thing puts me off the amo. idea is the cst iron with so many pinch points, too much chance of BOOM if any powder spilt. They even use copper nails in explosive crates.
Regards

[stuffy]

If it's in Bremer Bay it's probably something used in boating/fishing or possibly farming. I can't imagine there was much need for wine bottling.

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[Timless Timber]

Bremer Bay and the fishing industry - makes me wonder... maybe swaging the leather washers shaft log onto the drive shaft to keep the water out when the boats afloat...

[Boringgeoff]

The proprietor of the Bremer Bay museum tells me it came from Albany. There is at least one winery at Bremer Bay.
Geoff.

[wheelinround]

Could this have been a clamping set up for when turning threads on the other end of a pipe?

I see there is a "Patent" on it is there any other markings No's Text????

[Boringgeoff]

Wheelin,
A number would be helpful but can't see one on it. Nothing at all apart from Patent that can be seen in the photos.
One of my friends suggested the scroll made it pre 1900 but if, as Hiroller suggests, its for balance then the scroll may have been added simply to titivate an otherwise ungainly protrusion, which in turn could suggest not so early.

Geoff.

[BobL]

[QUOTE=wheelinround;1705003]Could this have been a clamping set up for when turning threads on the other end of a pipe?QUOTE]

If this was the case the pipe would have a feed through instead of a closed end.

BTW I use a MW lathe chuck bolted to a piece of sturdy angle which is placed in the vice to hold pipe while it is being threaded. It's much stronger at holding pipe than a vice.

[wheelinround]

[QUOTE=BobL;1705042]

Could this have been a clamping set up for when turning threads on the other end of a pipe?QUOTE]

If this was the case the pipe would have a feed through instead of a closed end.

BTW I use a MW lathe chuck bolted to a piece of sturdy angle which is placed in the vice to hold pipe while it is being threaded. It's much stronger at holding pipe than a vice.

Why would it need to go right through?? If your only clamping it to stop it turning while threading the other end


I like your idea but workers in the field/on the job wouldn't have such luxury

[Cliff Rogers]

I reckon it is some sort of a swagging/crimping tool for applying a collar/knob to the end of a rope like this....
http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/920/9...924920_416.jpg
http://www.gsproducts.co.uk/store/im...le-copper.jpeg

I have found a modern equivalent for a medical application.

Stent crimping tool for producing a grooved crimp - Patent #06510722
http://www.strutpatent.com/image/get...128-D00000.jpg

[burraboy]

I reckon it is some sort of a swagging/crimping tool for applying a collar/knob to the end of a rope like this....
http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/920/9...924920_416.jpg
http://www.gsproducts.co.uk/store/im...le-copper.jpeg

I have found a modern equivalent for a medical application.

Stent crimping tool for producing a grooved crimp - Patent #06510722
http://www.strutpatent.com/image/get...128-D00000.jpg

Why the rubber jaws though? They wouldn't work on those steel collars. I agree it is almost certainly a crimping tool, but just what?

[orraloon]

Sorry to burst the baloon again but swaged metal sockets on wire rope were not around back then. They are a reletively new thing and require a hydraulic press. Rubber jaws would never have got that kind of pressure.
Regards
John

[Toymaker Len]

What about crimping a soft copper collar onto a hemp rope ?

[auscab]

This Vintage adjustable stock die looks similar in some ways to the mystery tool.


Vintage Austec Adjustable Stock Dies Made IN Australia | eBay

Rob