Petrol pricing

[Master Splinter]

Interestingly, the average NSW regional price for petrol is still cheaper than the average Canberra price, and we get less variation in pricing, too...

http://www.aip.com.au/pricing/retail...w.htm#canberra

[rrich]

We have a couple of options. The supermarket thing is, as stated above, virtually worthless. We became members of COSTCO mainly for the fuel benefit. We must use an American Express card to pay for fuel. Typically COSTCO fuel (Petrol or Gasoline) is three to six cents cheaper per almost 4 litres than elsewhere. The AMEX card gives a 3% or 4% rebate on fuel purchases.

Currently the general price is $3.65 and with the rebate the cost is about $3.54. Outrageous but with the policies of Governor Moonbeam and some of the tree huggers we're still about $0.30 more expensive than neighboring states.

I guess that you blokes have your own "Moonbeams".

[Twisted Tenon]

We have a couple of options. The supermarket thing is, as stated above, virtually worthless. We became members of COSTCO mainly for the fuel benefit. We must use an American Express card to pay for fuel. Typically COSTCO fuel (Petrol or Gasoline) is three to six cents cheaper per almost 4 litres than elsewhere. The AMEX card gives a 3% or 4% rebate on fuel purchases.

Currently the general price is $3.65 and with the rebate the cost is about $3.54. Outrageous but with the policies of Governor Moonbeam and some of the tree huggers we're still about $0.30 more expensive than neighboring states.

I guess that you blokes have your own "Moonbeams".

I'm not sure our high cost of fuel here is down to the Greenies Rich. It seems to me that it is just too easy a bucket of money for our pollies to grab. The latest buzz words used here are "price signals". Just been reading up on the situation you have in California, things are looking grim for you guys too

TT

[Master Splinter]

We're the fourth cheapest county in the OECD for petrol, beaten only by Mexico, US and Canada. Sixth cheapest for diesel.

http://www.aip.com.au/pricing/internationalprices.htm

[Twisted Tenon]

We're the fourth cheapest county in the OECD for petrol, beaten only by Mexico, US and Canada. Sixth cheapest for diesel.

http://www.aip.com.au/pricing/internationalprices.htm

There's graphs and then there are graphs. This one shows a similar trend but has more countries added. We are 88 cheapest on this scale. Click onto the names in the list to see a breakdown of that country over the past quarter. It's obvious that the countries with the really cheap petrol are the oil producers and so it is reasonable to suggest their fuel is heavily subsidised. According to Wiki Australia is number 31 of the worlds oil producing countries.

TT

[Master Splinter]

True, but I'm not sure if I'd like to drive in Libya or Syria or many of the other places in that list at the moment...I'd be worried that I'd get back to my car and find it (and possibly myself) airconditioned by the AK-47 termite, or that a flat tyre wouldn't be from a gyproc screw but caused by 'device, improvised, explosive'.

However, some of those countries do discourage or outright ban women drivers, so there could be a bright side! (ducks).

[Twisted Tenon]

True, but I'm not sure if I'd like to drive in Libya or Syria or many of the other places in that list at the moment...I'd be worried that I'd get back to my car and find it (and possibly myself) airconditioned by the AK-47 termite, or that a flat tyre wouldn't be from a gyproc screw but caused by 'device, improvised, explosive'.

However, some of those countries do discourage or outright ban women drivers, so there could be a bright side! (ducks).

I'd duck too

You're right about this though - we're lucky to live in a peaceful country, and even though there are looming social justice problems, it's nothing like what the Mid East is going through.

TT

[rrich]

True, but I'm not sure if I'd like to drive in Libya or Syria or many of the other places in that list at the moment...I'd be worried that I'd get back to my car and find it (and possibly myself) airconditioned by the AK-47 termite, or that a flat tyre wouldn't be from a gyproc screw but caused by 'device, improvised, explosive'.

However, some of those countries do discourage or outright ban women drivers, so there could be a bright side! (ducks).

I'll have to duck also however something that happened here gives forth another theory.

In the mid to late 1970s we had a huge influx of refugees. Almost all of these people never really learned the concept of an automobile during their youth. These people, generally speaking, are less adept at operating a motor vehicle. What is worse is that they are teaching their children how to drive.

As I watched my kids growing up and playing with their Hot Wheels on the floor they seemed to learn the automobile concept.

As we and our parents have stereotyped boys and girls, the girls were less likely to be pushing Hot Wheels around on the floor. Also, when we travel as a couple, it is most likely that the male will drive. Thus with stereotyping and less opportunity to gain skills we tend to feel that women are not as adept at driving as males are. Usually by the time a woman reaches her middle 30s in age, there is no real difference in her driving skills than the average male.

However, two boys, 43 and 45; let me say that you can't fix stupid. One has got it and the other probably never will.

[Boringgeoff]

Yesterday the price of ULP was 141.9 c/L when I filled my car. The price at this outlet always ends with .9 but with the recent rise in excise of .5 of a cent shouldn't the fuel price now finish with .4? The outlet are either, A) discounting the price by .5 or, B) picking up an extra half a cent/L.
Am I missing something here or just a bit thick?

Geoff.

[Evanism]

Its not the market thats broken, its government.

A$0.38143 of every litre is taxes - PLUS 10% GST. 38 cents.

Don't forget, this is AFTER you have paid your 33 to 49% nominal personal tax rate AND after your business/boss has paid its fees, levies, charges, tariffs, duties, tolls, exises, licences and state/local/federal gougings.

Hehe. There is also the 2% medicare levy that comes right off the top first.

Add it all up.

How much, do you think, after just a single round of taxes you get out of that $100 you "earn"?

Boiled frogs.

[Bob38S]

Of course the good hearted, generous oil company is absorbing the 0.5 of a cent

Sorry, I had to write this down and may print it on a card for future conversations - had to write it because I couldn't say it because my tongue was pressed too far in my cheek.

[artme]

Two points, one cent each, therefore my 2c worth:

The price of Tapis, on which our domestic price is based, has fallen markedly. The price of fuel in this country has remained static.

To say that this country has cheaper fuel than that is not really a fair comparison. We should look at the disposable income level of the people buying fuel and then see how cheap or dear things really are.

[Big Shed]

Two points, one cent each, therefore my 2c worth:

The price of Tapis, on which our domestic price is based, has fallen markedly. The price of fuel in this country has remained static.

To say that this country has cheaper fuel than that is not really a fair comparison. We should look at the disposable income level of the people buying fuel and then see how cheap or dear things really are.

These graphs say otherwise, I know that where I live (country Victoria), both petrol and diesel have seen substantial falls over the last few months.

http://www.aip.com.au/pricing/marketwatch.htm

[artme]

These graphs say otherwise, I know that where I live (country Victoria), both petrol and diesel have seen substantial falls over the last few months.

http://www.aip.com.au/pricing/marketwatch.htm

I based my statement on Graphs presented by Allan Kohler on the finance part of the ABC news.

Keeping an Eye on prices here shows that they have remained pretty well static. Any fall certainly has not been the equivalent of the fall in Tapis prices.

I think with the falling dollar prices will invariably rise.

Interesting to see that the big oil producers have upped their output and forced prices down in an attempt to drive cheaper energy suppliers from the market. Good old free market!!!!

[Big Shed]

Can you give me a link to Alan Kohlers' graphs Arthur?