Reality Check

[weisyboy]

so ya want cheep wheatherboards ay

and what type of flooring t&g or hust plain boards.

[dai sensei]

So I've got the frame settled....

Go and get it checked by a structural engineer. The wind loads in Qld are different to other states, especially on the escarpment of the mountain range at Towoomba. Check the building/construction requirements of you local council also, you may not think it is a big shed, but by council stardards it is.

[funkychicken]

I wouldn't trust weatherbeards from Carl..
Rough sawn 25mm thick flooring. I can dress and T&G it myself if I want

I'll have to get the whole thing checked by an engineer before I do anything.
Where I am in Meringandan I'm pretty much at the flat bottom of a valley, I'm not on top of hill or anything.
I've worked out the Wind Loading to be W36N or there abouts, but I'll check with the relevant people. The timber sizes I worked out are for W33N-W41N

[weisyboy]

wheatherboards are weatherboards. they still have to comply with standards.

[funkychicken]

Still don't trust them

[funkychicken]

I called Muckets today and they'll charge me:

$5.25pm for weatherboards
$2.75pm for the 100x25

Things I need to do:

1. Find cheap source of weatherboards and flooring
2. Get plans drawn up
3. Go to council
4. Learn how to grade timber properly
5. Do an owner builder course at Tafe
6. Buy the timber
7. Leave it for a while to let it season a bit
8. Build the thing!

Sounds simple enough

[weisyboy]

1. muckets quoted me 4.68 for 175m wheatherboards or 5.45 for special length.
2. you have to be licenced to grade timber.

[jackliveshere]

I called Muckets today and they'll charge me:

$5.25pm for weatherboards
$2.75pm for the 100x25

Things I need to do:

1. Find cheap source of weatherboards and flooring
2. Get plans drawn up
3. Go to council
4. Learn how to grade timber properly
5. Do an owner builder course at Tafe
6. Buy the timber
7. Leave it for a while to let it season a bit
8. Build the thing!

Sounds simple enough

Hey Funky,

now that you've done yourself a rough budget and know what it's going to cost and more importantly know that you can afford it, I'd be putting your steps in this order:

1. Find a decent professional draftsman to provide complete drawings for your workshop. They will be able to nominate required timber sizes & gradings and be able to check everything to standard design tables

2. Do you owner builder's course - if this is the path you are taking for certification, you should get onto this pretty quickly

3. Shop your drafted plans around and get accurate quantities and prices for ALL your materials, not just timber, everything. This way you know the final cost of the project - remember, there are always little costs here and there that crop up and need to be allowed for

4. Apply for your owner builder's BSA permit - http://www.bsa.qld.gov.au/HomeOwners...orAPermit.aspx

5. Submit your plans to council - they will not certify your plans until there is a registered builder or an owner builder permit attached to your submission. Also, I'd check in the Toowoomba area for private certifiers; they are often much quicker and less useless then councils.

6. Once certified, buy all your materials and get moving Unless of course as you mentioned the timber you bought needs seasoning. Personally, I'd be buying timber that is ready to go straight away, that way there's no stuffing around and you can just get straight into it

7. Move into your nice new workshop and pull out some wicked woodworking pieces

Cheers,

WILL

[echnidna]

Before you do any thing talk to the council , specially the town planners.

You might have trouble with a big shed on bearers and stumps.
They may take the view you may intend to use it for an undisclosed purpose such as a residential building or a commercial factory etc.
Putting heaps of house type windows in it may aggravate the situation.

You can't claim it will be a garage to house your car and ute and boat etc coz of the framed floor.

So talk to the planners first and find out what is acceptable to them.
Take a pencil sketch just to give them an idea of what you want.
You might even find the planning scheme online, if so see if you can understand it.

[jackliveshere]

Before you do any thing talk to the council , specially the town planners.

Yes I second that.

Funky just wondering, why don't you just slap a concrete slab down and get a steel shed kit erected?? Sounds much quicker and easier to me

Cheers,

WILL

[Vernonv]

Also how will you go with the owner builders license?
Is there a minimum age limit to getting one?
Can you get one even if you are not (I assume) the "owner" of the property?

I'm just playing devils advocate here, but might be worth checking out.

Also FC, is the property classed as rural? When I put up my "rural storage shed" (steel framed) I had to put it through council, but I didn't need to get an owner builders license or anything.

[silentC]

In NSW you have to be the property owner and over 18 years old.

[jackliveshere]

I dare say it'd be the same deal up here in Queensland...

My pick is for a steel shed kit that someone else puts up or if you really have to build it yourself, then find a local builder who'll "lend" you their builder's number.

[echnidna]

Why on earth would a licensed builder risk his livliehood by lending his license?

Do you expect Lawyers and Doctors to lend their licenses?

[weisyboy]

only person that would lend a licence is a really good mate ant tehn they would help u build it.

otehrwise fat chance.