Woodworking QUIZ ;

[ozwinner]

What was the question again? :confused:

[Ralph Jones]

Hello Friends,
As soon as I can get the river to stop flowing from my eyes and my sides quit hurting from laughing, I will answer this quiz.

Whoo, that's better. The answer for ARRIS as many of you have already explained is the sharp intersection of two surfaces, eg. the face and side of a piece of wood.

Thank you all for your support.

Respectfully,

[bitingmidge]

Ahhh come fellas, be serious.... no one likes a SMART ARRIS!!


P

[Ralph Jones]

Hello bitingmidge,
Is a biting midge what we call a mosquito up here in the USA?

Respectfully, :confused:

[Bob Willson]

Not fair LBD you changed it. I still have the original somewhere on my computer!

[silentC]

Ralph,

We have mossies here too. A midge is some other biting insect thingy that apparently lives up Queensland way.

Down here on the far south coast we have mosquitos, march flies and sand flies.

[bitingmidge]

Hi Ralph,

Is a biting midge what we call a mosquito up here in the USA?

Is that the woodwork quiz question for today?

A biting midge is otherwise known as a sandfly in Australia. They have also been described as "flying teeth."_ They are minuscule flies in the genus Culicoides with my "favourite" (and the most common around my place) being Culicoides Mollestus.

They are small enough to fly through insect screens and can can inflict a burning, painful bite with itching symptoms that can last for weeeks in some cases.

This
Biting Midge Link is a US one which will give you a brief overview!

Cheers,

P

[Ralph Jones]

Hello P,
Thank you for the information on the midge. Do me a favor and keep them down there, don't think I would care to get involved with them.

No the question about them was not the quiz for today as it is on down to another thread.

I think it is about Back sawn timber, I write four different forum quizzes and it gets a little hard to stay on top of them.

Yours is the only one I write after 4:00 PM my time.

Thanks again.

[Barry_White]

I maybe wrong but I thought an ARRIS was the term for taking the sharp edge off a 90 degree corner with either sandpaper, plane or a router. As in ARRIS the edge.

But as usual I was wrong. I just looked it up in my Funk & Waganall

[journeyman Mick]

Barry,
your F&W is out of date. Language is defined by usage, for instance the term sinister originally meant left handed and it was though that left handedness was a sign of the devil thus over time the words meaning changed. The term Arris meant, and still does, the edge formed by two planes meeting. However most tradesmen (well chippies and glaziers anyway) use the term as a verb to describe the action of removing this edge.

I was told that they do have sandflies in parts of America and that the native Indians referred to them as "no-see-ums"

Mick

[silentC]

Yes, glass with arrised edges is definitely what we called it when we removed the sharp edge. It was done with a machine that put a 45 deg. chamfer on each edge and polished all three faces. Or you could do it with a block of carborundum.

Maybe it should be called "de-arrised".

[Barry_White]

Mick

You misunderstood.

I was wrong the F&W was correct it says two planes meeting.

As Silent C says the term should be de-arris when you remove the corner

[journeyman Mick]

Barry,
I stand by my earlier posting, your F&W IS out of date in not giving the other current meaning for the word. Language is not static, otherwise all lefthanded people would still be called sinister. I'm sure your F&W doesn't give 'sinister' as meaning left handed yet that is its original meaning. 'Arris' did originally mean two planes meeting, however you would be hard pressed to find many people using it on a daily basis as such. You will however, find plenty of carpenters and glaziers (and possibly other trades)using the word as a verb meaning to remove the edge. Maybe they should all be using 'de-arris' instead but they're not. In years to come dictionaries will give both meanings and eventually they'll probably drop the noun.

Mick

[Barry_White]

Mick

I just checked my F&W and it gives four meanings to the word sinister and one of them is Situated on the left side or hand: opposed to right or righthanded

But it certainly only has one meaning for ARRIS and I take your point on meanings changing is on going.

[Bob Willson]

Yes, the F&W would certainly still use the term 'sinister' to mean on the left hand. It is a term that is commonly used in heraldry to describle where items on a coat of arms are in relation to one another. It is also used in heraldry to show/say what side of the family a person comes from.

Also, about 30 years a go when I worked for Bretts Joinery Works in Brisbane, the term arris was applied to mean that the edge of the glass had been smoothed off with an emery belt to make a shape that was:

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On the edge of a piece of glass

Damn,I've edited this twice now and I still can't get the edges to line up properly