WWW show collaboration

[silentC]

Craig,

OK, well I guess I am somewhere between 75% and 85% on the TSC-10HB.

As I mentioned, I'm going to have a look at Hare & Forbes (I have to go there anyway, my thicknesser needs attention) and at Carba-tec during the second week of May. I'll make my mind up definitely then.

The only other one I'm looking at is the Taiwan-built H&F ST-12D, which is similar feature-wise (including the right-tilting arbor) to the TSC-10HB except with a 12" blade, a larger table and a wider rip capacity. It also comes with a TCT blade:

Blade dia: 305
Table size: 950 x 690
Depth of cut: 95
Rip capacity: 1270
Motor: 2100 (3hp)
Weight: 270kg

It has the same style fence and the rails extend about another metre past the edge of the table. This gives it the wider rip capacity but will make its footprint a lot bigger and probably rules it out for that reason. It's also $300 more. That's nearly half a bandsaw.

And yet...

[craigb]

Darren,

Do you have a web site for the Taiwanese manufacturer?

Hare and Forbes still haven't got their act together to produce a web site.

There is no way I could fit a saw of that size in my small workshop, but I'd be interested in having a look at it on the web anyway.

As an aside, on the Carba-tec site, they're spruiking their May sale in Brisbane and saying that they gaurantee that their inhouse sale prices will be less than those at the WWW show.

Then again they only have ot be $1 less to meet that commitment.

Craig

[silentC]

Craig,

Sorry, no I don't. I've got a printed catalogue so if I remember, I'll scan the page and post it here. It looks very similar to the TSC-10HB. They're a bit light on with details in the catalogue so the best thing might be to either ring them or go in and have a look.

I don't have a huge amount of room either and the rails just look like they'll get in the way 'spose I could cut 'em off with a hacksaw

[craigb]

Darren,

No need to post a pic, Big Pete has already done so

See this thread:

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...?threadid=6149

BTW, after his search I think he ended up with the Jet 10" cabinet saw for around $2500.

Although he had to wait from November to April for it.

I have to confess that if the Jet was closer in price to the TSC-10HB I'd probably buy that one too.
Only because I own some Jet gear already and their quality is excellent.

I can't see how they justify the extra $1000 in this case though.

$300 I might consider it but $1000 - no way.

Craig

[silentC]

Yep, that's the one. Price is $1750 at the moment. Worth thinking about. I suppose one could close in between the rails and make it a router table....

[craigb]

I suppose one could close in between the rails and make it a router table....

That's what I like to see... lateral thinking

[silentC]

Rang Hare & Forbes and they're not going to be at the Sydney Working with Wood Show because they have a big metalworking show on at the same time.

I asked if they would be having any kind of sale before the show anyway and the guy told me yes they would.

[craigb]

That's interesting.

Either it must be A) a BIG metalworking show that they can afford to ignore the WWW show, that I would assume must attract at least 50,000 punters over three days, or
B) they haven't sold enough at the shows in the past to make it worth their while.

[silentC]

Yeah, I was surprised. I don't know how big a part of their business lies in the woodworking gear. They certainly seemed to dedicate at least half of their showroom to it. Maybe there's more margin in industrial metalworking machines.

[craigb]

Maybe there's more margin in industrial metalworking machines.

Yes could be. Or maybe their gear suffers when people can do an easy apples to apples comparison.

Who knows?

Not me, that's for sure.

[Ozartisan]

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[DanP]

Hare and Forbes (Herless) have been a big name in metal working machinery for years. Their business on that side would be much larger than the woodworking.

Dan

[DarrylF]

IMHO when you put the Hare & Forbes WW gear alongside the likes of Jet & Delta & Carbatec it definitely suffers - the quality is not quite there and it's not comparatively cheap enough to warrant it - with the possible exception of the tablesaws.

Metal working gear is definitely their focus, WW gear is certainly only a sideline for them. Doesn't surprise me that they're not going to be at the show - but it is a pity.

Carbatec Sydney is having a sale the week before the Sydney show, and I'll be giong to that as well. Looks like it's gonna be an expensive couple of weeks

I'm probably only in the market for a few smaller things this year - tenoning jig, decent dado blade, saw blade, good set of chisels, HNT Gordon smoothing plane, decent clamps at the right price (always), a handsaw or two, a jointer, vises - and anything else I need if there's a bargain to be had. Almost certainly not all of the above though - I'd be shot at dawn

[Bob Willson]

Jointers are not normally considered to be one of the "smaller things"

[DarrylF]

Compared to tablesaws they are