Bush fires

[bennylaird]

All quiet on the Grampiams fire front for now. The weather actually came good and saved what could have been a catastrophy.

The ones who should wake up to themselves are the DSE and the Greenies. If they (DSE) didn't pander to the Greenie and allowed some controlled burns to regenerate the bush and create safety firebreaks then the problems wouldn't have been as bad. Friends in Pomonal who were lucky to have their property saved told us how it was as dark as night with only red glows of flame shining throught the dark smoke.

She is going out with the chain saw to remove all the natives from the property now. Cannot mention the DSE without adding lots of discriptive words....

[Iain]

If they (DSE) didn't pander to the Greenie

I spent a couple of years with what is now DSE and have to agree with you, but, and it is a big but, the greenie element has infiltrated the DSE over a number of years and they are actually in control.
One greenie with a degree gets into a position of power then when a vacancy becomes available another greenie is applicant of choice, over a period of years this compounds and it effectively becomes a closed shop.
Another similar group is the Alpine Planning Committee, you will never, ever get to be a member of that group who control the National Parks in the snowfields unless you are one of the clique.
These are the rabid university protesters who complained about exactly the same thing then are the worst perpetrators themselves.

[Tonyz]

Why do you think we had so much trouble Jan. last year with the big fire down here. The greenies saying you cant cut that down its native! shiet!
a farmer in the south east last week on ABC news "its about bl.... time we stuffed the greenies and made decent fire breaks, I can over these!"
Tonto

[bennylaird]

My brother in law spent all friday burning firebreaks along the roads on farmers property. At least it killed some of the locusts as well. However it also means less grazing land. If the breaks were in the bush then they wouldn't have needed too. You only have to look at the regrowth and the seeds which only propagate thru fire to see the benefits of regular burns. The animals at least have a chance to avoid a controlled burn rather than perish in a full blown firestorm.

[Felder]

Isn't it amazing how after a major fire you can't find a greenie anywhere? There were greenies everywhere in the Blue Mountains before the big fires in 2001/2002, and then they suddenly disappeared!

True story - December 2001 when large fires affected Warrimoo (township in the Blue Mountains of whose local Bush Fire Brigade I am a member) there was a bulldozer cutting an emergency trail behind some houses (about 50m into the bush) so the fire-trucks could get in and start an urgent back-burn. One particulary 'green' resident grudgingly admitted that the trail needed to be implemented, but wanted to know when all the trees would be re-planted again.:eek: Cue smart reply from a visiting South Australian fire-fighter; "Contact your local Brigade. I'm sure they will be happy to re-plant them tomorrow morning." He didn't know that the local Brigade was in ear-shot - he almost got a clip over the ear.

[echnidna]

Control burns are still done by CFA,
I am currently negotiating a systematic control burn system here.

The rain might have let some fires come under control but it created accessibility problems (muddy tracks) around the Grampians and slowed down the pracicality of burning firebreaks.

Theres still a lot of fire season to go and if the weather goes bad some of the fires regarded as being under control can erupt again.

[Iain]

Weather is incredible, yesterday I was scorching and today I am considering putting on a pair of long pants to keep warm.
Wife went up to Shepparton yesterday in daughters car via KInglake, no air, claims that even though there was no sign of fire you could feel the heat, I had air and loved it, towing up one horse, no air in the float he was glad to get out.
We can still smell the smoke here though.

[ozwinner]

I went up to Kinglake yesterday too, when I left home it was all smoky.
When I went up the mountain it was all clear.

Al

[Clinton1]

today I am considering putting on a pair of pants to keep warm

So, did you type that post naked? :eek:

Smelly seats at your house?

[Iain]

Don't know what you mean
Whilst I am here and on the subject of fires, I just put this on ebay.
I never had to use it thank goodness but always carried it with me in the bush just in case.
I don't know how good they are but I figured it couldn't hurt to carry one anyway.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MESE%3AIT&rd=1

[echnidna]

you only got the one of them Iain?
I'd like a few of them!

[Iain]

Used to carry it everywhere with me, cost about $450 now, cheap for what they offer I suppose.
Only one.

[ozwinner]

But what about me 'orse, will it fit??

Al

[Iain]

Check the link and have a look.....

[echnidna]

But what about me 'orse, will it fit??

Al

Hey Al yer s'posed ter save yerself in the shelter
and eat the horse once its cooked.