Forum upgrade and support

[elanjacobs]

Has the upgrade happened and should we notice anything different? Editing and reporting posts is still slooooooow as molasses

Also, why can I delete posts on MWF but not here? I thought they're on the same platform

[ubeaut]

Has the upgrade happened and should we notice anything different? Editing and reporting posts is still slooooooow as molasses{

Upgrade hasn't been done yet still waiting for Steven to be able to do it. It's a big job that takes a number of hours to do and getting enough time in one hit is proving a problem.

Shouldn't be a delay in reporting or editing posts. Haven't heard from anyone else with these problems that I can recall. Works fine for me with no noticeable delay that I have noticed.

Also, why can I delete posts on MWF but not here? I thought they're on the same platform

Members can't delete their own posts on here only Admin or moderators can do that and then only if there is a really good reason for a post to be deleted. If we left it to members to delete their own posts there could be pandemonium. as it has happened in the past.

As much as we'd love to say we can trust all our members to do the right thing.... It's an impossibility as this sort of thing has happened before on a number of occasions. Had couple of members come on and slag off other members, religion, products and other things then in mid debate when they were being reprimanded by members they deleted their posts. One (supposedly level headed) member took offense at a comment made and set about deleting all his posts and threads leaving massive holes in threads throughout the forums.

This was in the early years of the forums and is the reason why it is no longer available on here.

It shouldn't be available on MWF either and must have been reset with one of the upgrades.

I'm sure all levelheaded members will see the wisdom behind not allowing own deletions. Can't say that everyone will agree but that's just the way it is to keep the forums running smoothly.

Will take hours to change the permissions on MWF so may not happen for a little while but it will change over there also.

Cheers - Neil

[Acco]

Neil,

In regards to reporting posts, it’s after you submit the report, usually takes about a minute till it returns to the thread.

And with deleting, you used to be able to delete your post within the 24hr window after whilst you still had editing options.

[elanjacobs]

And with deleting, you used to be able to delete your post within the 24hr window after whilst you still had editing options.

Yeah, that's the deleting I meant. Especially handy for when posting takes so long and you end up posting twice.

[FenceFurniture]

And with deleting, you used to be able to delete your post within the 24hr window after whilst you still had editing options.

Yes, and I can't see the difference between deleting a post and just editing it to delete all the content (good, bad, indifferent, or most likely because of a repeat). It's because there have been so very many duplicate posts in the last 6? months that we are trying to keep the board tidy by deleting the dupes.

What happens is that you hit "Post" or "Submit" and nothing at all happens, so people hit the button again, and it posts up twice. The very eagle eyed will notice that after the first hit the button gets a glow around it, which tells you that it did actually register, and your post may appear sometime in the next (up to) 90 seconds.

There are various things (anything) that are, at random, as slow as a wet week. Other times they are as quick as they should be. For example, I can press "New Posts" and it will sit there and fool around for say 10-15 seconds which could become 30-60 seconds, so I press stop ("X") and then "New Posts" again, and they will very often come straight up.

Win 10
High spec machine
Latest Firefox
Decent speed NBN connection

No other website does it.

Just because I can, I'll see if it will do it when I post this.....

Edit: Nup, pressed it twice but because it posted in about 10 seconds it only posted once.

[Acco]

Neil,

In regards to reporting posts, it’s after you submit the report, usually takes about a minute till it returns to the thread

Did a report not long ago, from the time I hit report a post and typed 5 words till it came back to the thread, it was about 2mins

[ubeaut]

OK, OK, OK....

Just reported Accos' post and it took 3min 55sec to come back to this thread.

First time I've had this happen will get Steven on to it and see if I can't convince him to get the upgrade done post haste.

Can't recall how long deleting posts has been off on here but it's been a fair while as it takes some tome to add or delete that privilege and none of the privileges have been changed for a very long time.

The only ones who have had that privilege have been admins, super mods, mods, librarian, and some special registrations (now all revoked).

I have spent the last few hours doing the following:

I have added 2 new usergroups.... (Senior and Gold Members) and have reinstated the above mentioned privilege to Senior Members (can now delete own posts) and Gold Members (can now delete own posts and threads) both of these will only be available for 1440 minutes (24 hour) after posting. There are a few other privileges associated with these 2 new promotions like number of stored PM's, and a few others that you will have to find for yourselves.

• Full Members will be promoted to Senior Members when they've made over 500 posts on the forums.
• Senior Members will be promoted to Gold Members when they've made over 1000 posts on the forums.

Those with their own User Titles, eg: ubeaut - (Benevolent Dictator), may not see the user rank of Senior or Gold Member.

Cheers - Neil

PS Could take a few hours to a day for these new promotions to show up and work.

[poundy]

@barrysumpter reported that like/thanks aren't working for Gold Members in this post https://www.woodworkforums.com/f9/ple...77#post2140777

[FenceFurniture]

Can't recall how long deleting posts has been off on here but it's been a fair while

About a year I think?

I have added 2 new usergroups.... (Senior and Gold Members) and have reinstated the above mentioned privilege to Senior Members (can now delete own posts) and Gold Members (can now delete own posts and threads) both of these will only be available for 1440 minutes (24 hour) after posting.

• Full Members will be promoted to Senior Members when they've made over 500 posts on the forums.
• Senior Members will be promoted to Gold Members when they've made over 1000 posts on the forums.

• Thanks Neil. Just had a look when editing a post. The Check Box for delete is back, and it says "Delete this post in the following manner: Delete message" so I presume there is also a "Delete Thread" button for some people (Gold).

However, my post count is well over 1000 but there was no delete thread option. Maybe it also needs to be put into place for members above Gold Status? (dunno what the post counts are for the various statuses).



Not sure if you know this or not but in this thread between posts 18 & 19 the following has appeared:

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Also has appeared in this thread after your last post #22.

Never seen it before.

EDIT: Jeez, that's weird. Now it has moved up to after poundy's post.

[FenceFurniture]

Likes and Thanks no longer possible.

Existing L&T are visible though.

[elanjacobs]

Weird...they were there and working 5 mins ago for me

[ubeaut]

It appears that the promotions only update after you have logged in and then it could take an hour or so to change anything. Had a look last night and there was only a bout 10 who had been promoted, at 8:00am this morning there were about 40+ and all had logged in 21/05/2019.

Will have a look in Promotions a bit later on and see if there is a problem there with L & T. However it's working for me and I have had a couple of thanks for above post this morning from elanjacobs, homey.

Not sure if you know this or not but in this thread between posts 18 & 19 the following has appeared:

The thing you saw between posts will probably be an annoying ad from Infolinks that's displayed to web surfers and is only seen if you aren't logged in.... Bet you weren't logged in. If you were then it needs to be looked at as there may be a problem.

Cheers

[elanjacobs]

L&T no longer visible for me either now

I see a Google Adsense between post 1 and 2 of this thread; I am logged in, tried logout/login and it's still there :/



EDIT: Adsense seems to be there after the first post on every thread, judging from a random sample of 5

[FenceFurniture]

Bet you weren't logged in.

You lose!
I never log out. Every couple of years I am forced out (probably due to an upgrade or summink. That happened a few months ago I think.

So, I'm going to log out now and see if anything changes when I log back in (like rebooting troublesome tech).

Start holding your breath.......NOW!

EDIT: Rightio, breathe easy. Adsense is still there, and as Elan points out it seems to always be the second latest post.

[Chesand]

I got those adverts in about 3 threads this morning and there is one above post 17 or 18 in this thread.
I never log out and there is no "report" symbol on those adverts.