The end of the World is nigh.

[bitingmidge]

Which one's that, "Bear Mountain picnic"?

I'd be thinking "Lay, lady lay."

P(till the break of day!)

[Sturdee]

I'd be thinking "Lay, lady lay."

P(till the break of day!)

No need to wait for the end of the world for that.


Peter.

[anthonyd]

Good point except for the "better at" bit. I don't think we should confuse quantity with quality, and we should specially not confuse it with equality or objectivity, of which there is none.

Agreed - but they have definitly got better at delivering quantity even though it might not be quality, so my statement still stands!

[rick_rine]

O.K. Global warming is a fact . In Siberia temperatures have risen 3 degrees . Water temp has risen . There is now a coral reef off Tasmania that was not there 30 years ago . Fact .
So what happens when things heat up ? They expand . The earth is a globe and as it expands it causes an earthquake .
They are already saying the cyclones are caused by warming of the oceans causing winds to develop . Something like the el-nino effect .

Just my theory .

[Gumby]

O.K. Global warming is a fact .

No it isn't, global temperatures were higher 40 years ago than they are now.

It's a myth spread by the greenies.

The earth has gone through masny climate change cycle over millions of years and has been stable for some time.

[doug the slug]

....... They are already saying the cyclones are caused by warming of the oceans causing winds to develop ......

There might be something in what you say rick. eating chilli also causes a warming effect and is responsible for wind, and also symptoms not unlike an earthquake in some individuals

[maglite]

I personally believe that it has the makings of the biggest pile of crap i have ever had the privelege to witness.

Natural disasters are just that.......natural.
With our reliance on technology we have assumed that our power out weighs that of mother nature.....we are merely pawns in the end game and imho i dont think mother nature gives a s**t about how rich you are or wether you ride a bike to work to help save all of those greenhouse emissions.

There is a lot to be said about Carpe Diem........you never know what day will be your last. Wether it be by accident, earth quake or flood.
That being said........why the big hooo haaa about nuclear power stations.
By products aside ( currently all the materials used have a by product, wether it be coal or gas) Wind or solar arent taken into account as they generally need a helping hand by those previously mentioned,nuclear produces the cleanest energy by a country mile.
Yes, its by product, or at least its disposal, is distasteful.......but we cant have our cake and eat it too.
I think that most of the human race are very short sighted and most couldnt give 2 ***** about the condition of mother earth, they are more concerned with the contents of their hip pockets.

And that goes for the so called greenies too!!!

[Gingermick]

I also heard about another polution related effect. Global dimming. I see its already affected a few here but; Extra particles in the atmosphere reflecting light, hence heat, thus negating global warming. Or it could have been a hoax and I'm Globally dim.

[bitingmidge]

It's a myth spread by the greenies.

So the more greenies you have, the less you should be believed!

P

[rick_rine]

.why the big hooo haaa about nuclear power stations.
By products aside ( currently all the materials used have a by product, wether it be coal or gas) Wind or solar arent taken into account as they generally need a helping hand by those previously mentioned,nuclear produces the cleanest energy by a country mile.
Yes, its by product, or at least its disposal, is distasteful.......but we cant have our cake and eat it too.
I think that most of the human race are very short sighted and most couldnt give 2 ***** about the condition of mother earth, they are more concerned with the contents of their hip pockets.

And that goes for the so called greenies too!!!

What I don't get is why the greens stopped the building of the franklin dam ? Surely it would be better to have more clean Hydro power , and yes I think its time we re-visited the idea of nuclear power too .

[bitingmidge]

I think its time we re-visited the idea of nuclear power too .

Revisiting the idea is a good thing..... so here is a site that is also worthrevisiting. If you haven't already done so, spend about 10minutes doing the tour.

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/default.htm

I'm not at all anti-nuclear power, but there just may be a few issues that haven't been quite resolved......

Cheers,

P
(Insert very serious, pondering smilie here.)

[Grunt]

The problem with nuclear power is what do you do with the waste.
How do you safely store nuclear waste with a half-life of 1000 years? There is just no way that we can guarantee that we could build a safe storage facility that will last 3 or 4 thousand years.

Sure, it'll solve our problems but future generations will be less happy.

I'm not in favour of building lakes over wilderness areas. There is so little wilderness left that I think we need to leave a little bit for our children.

I think Australia should build gas fired power stations. We have an abundant supply of natural gas. We could use this until the technology solar/wind or other renewable sources are up to speed. We need to keep investing in these so the technology advances.

[himzol]

Oh well, time to cash in the super and go fishing etc...

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/wwn/20050912/112653720001.html

Himzo

[DavidG]

The problem with nuclear power is what do you do with the waste.

There is surprisingly little dangerous waste to be stored.
With fuel rods- only a couple of percent of the rod is actually used and it can be reprocessed.
This leaves only a tiny bit of waste that could easily be set into stabilized blocks and buried.
The worlds total of really dangerous waste is not many cubic meters. The rest could be stored in drums and buried in a dry stable area.

[rick_rine]

There is surprisingly little dangerous waste to be stored.
With fuel rods- only a couple of percent of the rod is actually used and it can be reprocessed.
This leaves only a tiny bit of waste that could easily be set into stabilized blocks and buried.
The worlds total of really dangerous waste is not many cubic meters. The rest could be stored in drums and buried in a dry stable area.

I'm definetly no expert but why couldnt they just shoot it out into space .
It has to be cleaner than coal and even gas , we could keep our wilderness .