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    If you live long enough you will get prostate cancer. Things to do to reduce the likelyhood of getting prostate cancer is to turn gay and take it up the butt often. If that doesn't appeal to you, regular orgasms also reduce the chances of getting prostate cancer. If your SWIMBO won't help just take the matter into your own hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt
    If you live long enough you will get prostate cancer. Things to do to reduce the likelyhood of getting prostate cancer is to turn gay and take it up the butt often. If that doesn't appeal to you, regular orgasms also reduce the chances of getting prostate cancer. If your SWIMBO won't help just take the matter into your own hands.
    Where on earth did you get those ideas from??????
    Prostate cancer is not caused by anything much it either happens or doesn't happen. You can't catch prostate cancer, lifestyle does have some bearing but what you are saying is not true...Tell them you were just joking.

    Peter R.

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    Don't spoil Grunt's fun Pete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt
    , regular orgasms also reduce the chances of getting prostate cancer.
    there you go, proof that marriage causes cancer.
    If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumby
    there you go, proof that marriage causes cancer.
    You get regular orgasms in marriage????????

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    Nope, read it again..........it's exactly rthe opposite :eek:
    If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.

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    Peter,

    I was actually serious. I was listening to the radio last year and some health professional suggested that ejaculation reduced the incidence of prostate cancer. He also suggested that the physical stimulus of anal sex on the prostate gland reduces the incidence as well. >>

    I found several references to ejaculation and reducing prostate cancer. Have a look at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3072021.stm

    I couldn’t find any reference to the anal sex thing. Now my google search field has a reference to anal sex in the drop down.

    It’s lucky that I’m a wanker. For those of you who aren't wankers you can get buggered.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt
    Peter,

    I was actually serious. I was listening to the radio last year and some health professional suggested that ejaculation reduced the incidence of prostate cancer. He also suggested that the physical stimulus of anal sex on the prostate gland reduces the incidence as well. >>

    I found several references to ejaculation and reducing prostate cancer. Have a look at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3072021.stm

    I couldn’t find any reference to the anal sex thing. Now my google search field has a reference to anal sex in the drop down.

    It’s lucky that I’m a wanker. For those of you who aren't wankers you can get buggered.



    Grunt
    I am sorry about reading the post about marriage causing cancer, I miss read it.

    When I was in Sydney I had plenty of time to discuss the problem of Prostate cancer with the specialists. Mine was very informative and gave me the facts as they were know then. I see that your web site was posted in 2003 and no further evidence has been produced to support the theory.

    I asked if having a vascetomy would have any effect on the incidence of prostate cancer, There was a definite no.

    I was told that genetic conditions was a 50% part of someone getting this cancer, that smoking could be a cause or at least accelerate the cause and that drinking excessive amounts of beer, especially old beer, also had some effect on the incidence of cancer.

    Having said that, I must concede that everyone's cancer is different, no matter what type of cancer it is. It is as different as each of our DNA prints and the experts treat the disease according to the person as well as the know history of the disease, this is why the doctors tell you in no uncertain terms to not listen to the stories of other sufferers and apply them to your case.

    Also, something to look at if you are to be treated. There are those that say that Chemo is the only way to go, others say surgery others radiation. It is know as the poison, slash and burn syndrome. It is up to you to choose the method best suited to your ideas...All seem to have the same results in the end, but the end is not always the same in so far as your general well being. But do not listen to others, they all have this eager disire to claim that their treatment was the only way to go, and who can blame them for that hope.

    Peter R

    Sorry about being so melodramatic about it all, but it is a pain in the **** to me, or at least, was.

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    Funny how they include smoking in the causes isn't it. Seems to be the cause of choice for everything, including blunt chisels.

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    Does this mean if Melbourne becomes the gay capital of Australia there will be less incidence of the said cancer?
    Had my test in December, all clear.
    God, I'm starting to feel like a geriatric.
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    I had the blood test a couple of years ago, should get it done again. I've actually heard that if there is any history of it in the family, you should start getting regular tests in your 30's, although doctors will tell you you're too young.

    My Father's father died of prostate cancer at 64. He couldn't pee but wouldn't tell anyone about it. By the time he finally did, it was too late. They whipped his prostate out but it had spread. I was too scared to go see him in hospital in the last couple of days. I was 16 at the time. He asked for me but I wouldn't go. I couldn't believe he was going to die.

    My old man has an enlarged prostate but no cancer yet. He gets it checked regularly. The blood test is not enough though, he has to get the finger up the date. He chose a lady doctor with lovely slender fingers. He's onto this 'alternative' medicine thing called Saul Palmento or something. Keeps trying to get me to take it.
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    Saw Palmetto masks cancer making it much more difficult to detect.
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    Apparently it can alter the results of a PSA test. I don't know if it causes any problems with the finger up the date though.
    Quote Originally Posted by From the web
    There is some positive evidence for its effectiveness against prostate problems, but there's a lack of real scientific information based on well-designed clinical trials. Like the drug Proscar, it can alter results of a PSA test and make prostate cancer hard to diagnose. If you take it, tell your physician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentC
    I had the blood test a couple of years ago, should get it done again. I've actually heard that if there is any history of it in the family, you should start getting regular tests in your 30's, although doctors will tell you you're too young.

    My Father's father died of prostate cancer at 64. He couldn't pee but wouldn't tell anyone about it. By the time he finally did, it was too late. They whipped his prostate out but it had spread. I was too scared to go see him in hospital in the last couple of days. I was 16 at the time. He asked for me but I wouldn't go. I couldn't believe he was going to die.

    My old man has an enlarged prostate but no cancer yet. He gets it checked regularly. The blood test is not enough though, he has to get the finger up the date. He chose a lady doctor with lovely slender fingers. He's onto this 'alternative' medicine thing called Saul Palmento or something. Keeps trying to get me to take it.
    I am not a medical professional, but I have a family history of heart disease and for my own peace of mind I have checks on a regular basis. I was a fool and smoked for 50 years, giving it up about 5 years ago.

    If I was in your shoes I would certainly ask my doctor about regular checks, if he says don't worry and it is still a concern see an oncologist, but what ever you do don't go around with the morbid thought that you are a cert to get prostate cancer. Stress can cause cancer.

    One thing that is our favour is the new cure technics are found every day. Cancer is one of those problems that everyone that has it is very willing to be experimented upon.

    Your PSA can change all the time, it is not a measurement that is always stable. The process is to monitor the PSA to establish a range for you so that anything that climbs outside of that range becomes suspect.

    My PAS is usually 1.2 but I have a range to 4.5. If it goes above 4.5 I would worry.

    If you want a low PSA, don't go in with a hangover. Don't go in after sex...I don't mean dont go in after sex, I mean...you know what I mean, even if the nurse is a looker.

    The finger bit is used to feel if there are any irregularities of shape in the prostate gland. I was told that a lump was felt on the top left side of mine. The prostate can enlarge for many reasons as well, the things the doctors look for is if it is hardened which is another indicator of the cancer cells.

    If cancer gets into the lymph nodes, and there are many very close to this male gland, the first outside discovery is that there is cancer in the bones, and by that time you are usually untreatable.

    It is not a happy thought, but the first self inflicted death in the Northern Territory, when they legalised this way of departing, was a 35 year old builder with prostate cancer. Some specialists said that they could have cured or at least given this bloke a much longer life than he had expected.

    I have decided that I am not going to die of prostate cancer, as a matter of fact, I have decided that I am not going to die of anything serious

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    can't get this ( lucky me ) but like most women I take an interest in male health issues ( want to make sure my partner is in tip-top condition, well at least until I'm a beneficiary of his life insurance anyway )

    for those of you who are looking for more information on this subject one site has quite a lot on nutrition for those who want to be a bit proactive.

    http://www.prostate.org.au

    http://www.prostate.org.au/diet.htm

    I think most of us would rather read someone's postings than their obituary.

    I had a relative die uneccesarily because they delayed going to the doctor even though they suspected cancer. Apparently there was a holiday booked and paid for and they thought it wouldn't matter if they left making the doctor's appointment until afterwards. How dumb is that. I hope it was a bloody good holiday because they didn't go on another one, ever.
    no-one said on their death bed I wish I spent more time in the office!

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