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    I think there must be plenty of ways to cheat using edge of the law or legal substances as well. Caffiene, blood replacements and hyperbaric chambers come to mind. Im also sure that there is a leading edge of science that drips into professional athletic performance and the authorities are perpetually playing a catch up game. It is well known the various militarys all have research going on to optimise human performance. I think its cheating when it is not evenly available, think the shark skin swimming suits, aluminium bats or some of the more advanced cycle designs. The very nature of competitive sport is to gain an advantage over your opponent. In professional sport winning is everything.

    I guess my original point is that yet again a public figure heads off into the sunset after purporting to be someone they are not. He is not the first nor will he be the last. He joins thousands of politicians, sports people, business people, authors, religious leaders, artists, etc, etc who are increasingly getting caught out. Lance plays a very sophisticated media game, that is for sure. But as for me, well fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Im rapidly running out of heroes.
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    Now to the sport news. Lance Armstrong has won his 7th triathlon world title at the age of 49.....

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    At least he had the ball to confess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koala-Man View Post
    At least he had the ball to confess.
    Don't see it like that. He had a career in which he abused anyone who suggested he might have used unethical practices. Confessing after the fact of being absolutely exposed as a cheat is hardly a demonstration of balls especially if there is money in it.
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    To be played at ear splitting volume....

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    First thing first

    Yes, Lance dopedOprah says the agreement was "no conditions". Straight to doping question. Lance answers:

    Yes.

    Did he use EPO?

    Yes.

    Did he use other banned substances like steroids?

    Yes.

    Did he use PEDs in all seven of the Tour de France victories?

    Yes.

    OK, so we've hit the ground running … Armstrong says he lived a lie.

    It was a perfect, mythic story. And it wasn't true.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbur View Post
    Don't see it like that. He had a career in which he abused anyone who suggested he might have used unethical practices. Confessing after the fact of being absolutely exposed as a cheat is hardly a demonstration of balls especially if there is money in it.
    Jim, I think you will find that Koala's reference was the punchline to a joke. There's only one lolly in his lollybag
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    Quote Originally Posted by corbs View Post
    Jim, I think you will find that Koala's reference was the punchline to a joke. There's only one lolly in his lollybag
    Lol. So used to typos I didn't take any notice.
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    Hmmm the man is not broken.

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    How can can you knock poor old Lance,at least his always positive!

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    So part 1 is done but I am not sure what I got out of it. I suspect that LA is sending a secret message to his followers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbur View Post
    Don't see it like that. He had a career in which he abused anyone who suggested he might have used unethical practices. Confessing after the fact of being absolutely exposed as a cheat is hardly a demonstration of balls especially if there is money in it.
    Whoosh!, that one went right over your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowyskiesau View Post
    Whoosh!, that one went right over your head.
    Did it ever.
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    Crikey

    Leave the poor guy alone. Besides lying, cheating, abusing, bullying, terrorising, and being a general tanker, what has he done wrong. Absolutely almost nothing.

    Yeah - sure - he could have come clean earlier - but that was obviously against character - and character is one thing he proved he hasn't got.

    Every chance he had to come clean was interrupted by accusations from friends and foes alike, and then he had to see his lawyers for litigation advice. When did he have the chance to speak?

    Remember - Winning is everything - Just do it - second place is the first loser. Sure he gave away a little integrity- but he's got heaps left - hasn't he?
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    Guess he will get charged with drug pedalling now
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