Intergrain DWD on Merbau Deck

[UteMad]

[quote=biffo;512447]Jim

Hi Biffo

I did a hardwood deck the other day with Spa n Deck 20m2 took 8ltrs for 3 coats so you'd want 15 - 20ltrs without seeing it....

cheers Utemad

www.dialadeck.com.au

[jimj]

Dear Biffo,

Grea to hear all of this is making sense.

I would avoid using natural as it really does not come through clear but dries way to yellow for most peoples taste. I have never had any one like it from my samples. As Kwila-merbau is a very golden orange timber when wet I would personally go with cedar. If you have a look at my website in my portfolio the 9th before -after is a merbau deck with cedar as the coating. Personally I think sedona on merbau is a little dark. But it may be what your after. I woud contact Flood and have them send you some samples of the colour that interest you and coat some off cuts and let your eye be the judge.

As for coating I always extrapolate from the manufacturers figures on the low side. I would work off 7m2/litre per coat. It will probably work better but that is the figure I work off.

Best of luck,
Jim J

[UteMad]

Hi Biffo

A few shots of a merbau deck with Sedona Spa n Deck

The colour merbau goes when you add the cleaner


The faded colour once all cleaning finished


With Sedona applied




Available colours on Merbau


Cheers Utemad

www.dialadeck.com.au

[biffo]

Available colours on Merbau


Cheers Utemad

www.dialadeck.com.au

Utemad - Thankyou for those pictures. Nothing beats seeing it. Left to right - what are those colours ? Sedona is the one on the far right ? Our floors inside the house are quite dark so that one might be ok. At first glance, we like the one on the far right and the one 4th from the right.

Jim - Will take your suggestion and contact Flood for a couple of samples once Utemad confirms those colours

Cheers
Biffo

[UteMad]

Hi Biffo

From the right to the left

Bare un cleaned merbau
Natural
Sedona
Redwood
cedar
white
driftwood

The far right is darkest cause it is covered in the tanins that have risen to the surface and dried...once cleaned the actual board is lighter as shown by the sample colours....Listen to jims advice on the product he uses it daily and knows it's colours and effects


cheers utemad

www.dialadeck.com.au



Cheers Utemad

[jimj]

Well Done Utemad,

Great photos and examples. Several weeks ago I tried to post some photos on this site of merbau being cleaned and when finished but as I am a complete computer gumby I think the photo megabytes or something was bigger than what can be posted. If I can get over the hurdle ,I will try to add some photos to show people.

The best thing is to get the samples, play with it and practice a little. Spa&deck will give you a nice,durable and attractive finish.

jimj www.restore-a-deck.com.au

[biffo]

Jim

This may be my chance to assist you ! Are you using Windows XP ?

If so, you go to this page from Microsoft : http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx and download the program in the right hand column called "Image Resizer". Once installed, you can right click on any image and select "Resize Images" - you select whichever size you want and hit enter. This then creates a resized copy of the original image and now should be suitable for posting on the forum!

Hope this helps.

[biffo]

Just called Flood and they don't actually supply any samples of the Spa-N-Deck, but said that I could send some offcuts to them and they would coat them and send them back to me.

[UteMad]

Just called Flood and they don't actually supply any samples of the Spa-N-Deck, but said that I could send some offcuts to them and they would coat them and send them back to me.

Hi Biffo

Ask when they are next doing a sample demo at the hardware stores ... I know they do it in sydney.You just go to which ever hardware and pick them up or have a look on the day ... If not Ask where there nearest sample board is and not a treated pine one although the colour is very similar on pine as i have both sample boards... I supplied a boot load of merbau to them for samples and hardware demo's the other month.Once again this is Sydney..

I know they say it takes up quite a bit of time to do samples.....Versus you being a home owner and buying one lot of product......

My photo sample came out very close to the actual colours and is on merbau... The darkness of all the colours is similar its just whether you want a ....brown... red ...caramel.... slant of the same colour

Cheers Utemad

www.dialadeck.com.au

[biffo]

This is a picture of the floor inside the house - seems to have a reddish colour to it so i'm almost thinking that the Redwood may be the closest "match".



Perhaps they do the Hardware demos in Sydney as their offices are in Sydney ? I will enquire about the sample boards tomorrow when i'm out and about.

[UteMad]

Hi Biffo

they have reps in qld too....

One of the biggest things we get asked for is to match the interior flooring

It can't be done.....

Use blackbutt inside and outside and the 2 will never have the same colour...if they do by chance day 1 they wont on day 2...Guaranteed
The product used inside is different to outside...
Inside is shaded outside not
inside gets cleaned and protected from the elements outside not
Outside breathes and changes moisture content especially if coating wears inside is trapped under its coating

The two will never match... your best to pick aa toning of your floor at best as to match it will prob look worse in 6 mnths when they no longer do

Just a thought

cheers utemad

[biffo]

Cheers Utemad - you are correct and I know that they could never match exactly. But I had never thought about how crap it would look when they change colour. We will just pick the one we like the best and go from there. Will call Flood again also about their reps in QLD and find out. Cheers Biffo.

[RobP]

I am a complete computer gumby.

I think Gumby might take exception with that.

[jimj]

Dear Biffo,

Thank you for the computer advice . I will see if I can figure it out. I spoke with Tom Mcnight about this forum and your new deck. Tom is the Qld technical and training officer for Flood and he told me he would be more than happy to come to your house with some spa&deck samples for you to practice with free of charge. He is a great fellow and works very hard for the company. He asked me to post his mobile number on the forum and said he hopes you will give him a call and set up an appointment. He asked that you mention this forum and my name so that he can connect with your call. He is based in Brisbane and said he is happy to travel to Brighton. He travels extensively around SEqld showing and demomstrating spa&deck. I hope that you will call him. His number is 0410 585647. Tom said that if there is anyone else reading this forum in SeQld to give him a call. He is a true credit to the Flood company and is very passionate about spa&deck.

Best of luck and I hope to be able to add to the photos soon. My apologies to gumby of this forum. I just couldn't think of any other way to describe my woeful computer knowledge or skills

jimj

[UteMad]

Geeees Jim thats what i call a reply to a problem.....

You sure with that much pull you don't secretly own FLOOD LoL

Seriously though the Flood reps truely do believe in there product my Sydney rep is equally passionate although i don't know that i could twist his arm into putting his mobile on the forum for all to call....He did come out to one of our jobs and assist (he scrubbed while i watched) in the first time i appplied there product to ensure it was done properly and sort any concerns i may have had with it versus my previous coating system... What more could you ask ...None of the other companies would do that ...

Well done Jim

cheers Utemad

www.dialadeck.com.au