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    Sorry to hear what happened Christopha. Hope things pick up.

    And here I am trying to bring up two boys to be considerate, caring, forgiving.... why with scum like this in society. It really makes one think about the society we live in .... most livable city heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by meerkat
    Sorry to hear what happened Christopha. Hope things pick up.

    And here I am trying to bring up two boys to be considerate, caring, forgiving.... why with scum like this in society. It really makes one think about the society we live in .... most livable city heh
    Nothing changes, there have always been low lifes. Possibly we are less effective in dealing with them these days. Also our enhanced communications spread the news more effectively than of old, giving an impression of more robberies, wars, lowlifes etc.

    With my kids, and also myself, I go with the Harry Trueman (or may have been Rooseveldt) philosophy " Walk gently, speak softly, but carry a big stick"
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    hi christopher
    that train driver is very slack, as an ex train driver myself on nsw cityrail trains you have a button you can press which can have police notified straight away you stop the train short at the next platform with the doors clothed and wait for the boys in blue to arrive,it is rather fun watching a scums face change to horror when they realise what you are doing and the cant do a thing about it
    hope your son gets better
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    My experiences with lecturers has always been positive when it comes to extra-ordinary matters, so I think your son will be OK in the uni stakes.

    Although its hard to accept, your son is lucky that it was not worse. He should have just handed over the phone. These guys when on the juice or in need of it do not act rationally. Its unacceptable behaviour to say the least but for the sake of a couple of hundred bucks its not worth the risk.

    The worse part of it is that when they get caught, we will be paying for their representation in court.

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    For a completely different perspective, this is a result of what the Bali 9, Chapelle Corby and others of their ilk bestow on our society with their drug running.

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    Very sorry to hear about your son Chris.
    He really should make the circumstances known to uni even though he intends to sit the exam.
    Sorry to be a pessimist but another not so good bit might come later on if they catch the scum,
    the courts might give him a community work order and nothing else.
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    Hey Chris - this wasn't the sort of news I expected to hear when I saw a post from you. Very sorry to hear about your son. I wish him all the best with his exam today, but agree with all the others. I work at Uni here. In NZ I would recommend they talk to their lecturer, but also go to student health to document their inuries and state of mind, (and to make sure that if they need support they have it), but this is also where they can get the paper work to apply for an aegrotat assessment - don't know if you guys have that - guess you do. I know that helpless feeling of volcanic rage that Dennis O mentions - don't know what you can do with that. We're all still here though (some a little slower than the others - its the time zone - really!), so keep us posted. Best wishes to you and yours, Chris H
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    I don't visit the city often these days and the last trip was to the WWW show, whilst waiting for SWMBO outside Crown I was confronted by several aerosols begging for money in different ways and they became abusive when the request was denied.
    I didn't hang around and feel very dissapointed to say that this is what Melbourne can be like.
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    SWHMBO and I got accosted by these beggers one night on Southbank.
    I told the scum to get out of my face or Ill cave yours in, he moved thankfully as there were 5 or 6 of them.

    Al :mad:

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    Chris, that's a real prick, heart goes out to your son and to you, we can hear how frustrated you feel.


    Regards.....Sean


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    I can't believe how much things have changed in Melbourne for the worst even just over the past 10-20 years while I've been growing up.

    I was driving home from a friends house on Toorak rd the other night when I suddenly found myself in the middle of a full on brawl, I had to come to a complete stop while these ignorant little Mike Tyson wanna be's went at it and forgot they had moved into the middle of the rd. I locked my doors and hoped it would move back to the footpath then a bottle was thrown which smashed over my bonnet so I held my hand on the horn, revved my engine through the pack of violent 17-21 year olds to draw attention that they were in the middle of a main rd. Eventually they moved out of the way still throwing fists and kicks.

    Ive never seen such full on violence right in front of my face, it was ugly and clumsy and no-body was thinking about thier actions at all, alot like the guys coming out of the court the other day who beat up that camera man.

    There's a frenzy of angry youth in Australia that seem to be getting worse.
    All the more reason to stay in your sheds and do woodwork I say!

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    Chris
    I'm really sorry about what has happened. I can't add any wisdom to what's already been said, only my condolences.
    :mad:
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    Thumbs up

    Thank you all for your good wishes for John and us, his family. Johnny sat for the exam and feels that he has done well, I hope he is correct! He has an appointment with the Uni people in the morning and he should be Ok as far as special consideration goes, he is taking the police report details etc with him.Big brother Allen met him at Spencer street after he finished his exam and walked with John right to the Old Exhibition building which is where the exams are held, Al said that by the time they both arrived that John was much calmer and more settled, thank goodness. Our two boys are very different to one another but they really care about each other and are always there for one another in a crisis. I guess that if your kids live and work so far from home that it really is fantastic that they do that living and working in reasonably close proximity. Poor bugger had to catch the bloody train home again tonight but one of his mates went with him and is staying overnight too so we are very pleased about that! Marg will be heading over straight after work on saturday and the three of them are going out to dinner together, that will do them all good.
    Once again, thank you all for your kind words and also for letting me "Unload"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm boy
    you have a button you can press which can have police notified straight away
    Not on trains in Vic.

    Stoppers. The CCTV footage on Melbourne trains is excellent. There are also a couple of hundred of coppers who do nothing but ride trains and deal with those scum to whom you are referring (trust me I was one of em for two and a half very long years). Most of those will have a good knowledge of the shyte that rides the trains on their lines and therefore stand a good chance of recognising the POS from the stills of the CCTV.

    The copper who took the report should pass the investigation on to the Transit Safety Divisions Crime Investigation Unit, as it is in their criteria. This is not just a simple theft, it is a robbery and is up the list a bit further in relation to its severity. Not to say the court won't give a pees poor sentence, but it should be better than he would get for a theft.

    Transit CIU have one of the best clean up rates in the department because of the excellent evidence they get from uniform members and the TV footage. There is a reasonable chance that the crook will be caught.

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    Chris

    Only just caught up with this thread. I hope your boy will be OK. What a lousy experience for him! I can only imagine how angry and frustrated you feel. It's some consolation for all of you that he has his brother so close by. There's no-one like family in a situation like this.
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    Christopha, the offender will get his down the track, sooner or later. Your son has shown real class and guts. Best wishes to you and yours.

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