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  1. #16
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    To Jackruss:
    quote: So in a nut shell, you can put copyright lines and data where ever you like , if it gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling, but once and image is out there, you are nearly powerless to protect it.

    I wouldn't try that with Macdonalds though
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    thats about it jow104
    but the Mc donalds but is more than a copyright ..... its a registared trade mark and as you can imagine its an international thing
    i couldnt reg all my images just cause it would cost a packet
    main problem is these days they can make heaps and the fines if they get them at all arent much

    i had one of my photographs stolen and used and at the end of the day i couldnt afford to fight it
    ok so i "Talked" to the guy about it and he stopped using it but thats why i stopped taking images professionally
    now its all just for me
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    The way I look at it is that you can never totally stop a fully experienced thief from helping themselves to anything.
    But you can make it rather difficult for most of the novices.
    I feel low resolution visible watermarked online images are reasonably (though not completely) secure.
    Hard copy catalogues can have smaller images with appropriate resolutions that won't blow up well plus visible watermarks.
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    Just to clarify a point with regard to copyright on wedding images.

    The actual prints that the client receives, the client owns the copyright on these. They can copy them to their heart's content (unless a signed agreement is made taking the client's copyright )

    The negs ( or data files , hey we are in the 21st century after all) are owned by the photographer, unless he charged specifically for film, then the client obviously owns the film since they paid for the item.

    This is a domestic situation, however the photographer is still being paid so is still a professional photographer, the ruling was made to help both the parties in a retail situation to know where they stand.

    In the commercial world, copyright is owned by the author of the image, that means if you don't press the button, you don't own the copyright-make sure you have you assitant sin that agreement.

    On a final note, you can easily take ANYONE's image, high or low res, change it by 35% (you gues is as good as mine as how they worked out this figure) and they no longer have any rights to the image - scary eh, but one of the prices we pay for technology.

    Protect yourself by just billing this into the job, thats why we charge so much

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    but they all exist very nicely in the same box.

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    Jackruss

    QUOTE On a final note, you can easily take ANYONE's image, high or low res, change it by 35% (you gues is as good as mine as how they worked out this figure) and they no longer have any rights to the image - scary eh, but one of the prices we pay for technology.

    That comment rings a bell because I think that if you go into a public art gallery(museum) you can find art students making copies or studies of works of art and I think the regulation of 35% sizing applies.

    So to echinida,
    It might be that copyright on helicopter video pictures could also follow this ruling.
    woody U.K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jow104
    It might be that copyright on helicopter video pictures could also follow this ruling.
    John, I don't think the helicopter video pictures are high enough quality to make large format or panorama prints. But I will have a second look anyway. I need to go up again in an afternoon so the cliff faces aren't shadowed by an easterly sun. But I will clean the chopper windows first so the camera gets clear shots.
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    Bob don't worry about cleaning the windows, Open the door or take it off :eek:
    woody U.K.

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    Don't think the chopper pilot would be very impressed!!
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