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1st November 2004, 12:04 PM #16
Only English bench planes have them, cast either behind the frog on Nos. 3, 4, 4 1/2, or behind the tote on 5, 6, 7.
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1st November 2004, 01:11 PM #17
AHEM! "seppo" ? I think the appropriate term is "bloody yank"
there's no school like the old school.
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1st November 2004, 05:28 PM #18Deceased
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Originally Posted by ryanarcher
Peter.
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1st November 2004, 05:38 PM #19
Thats some shiny brass you've got the Zitan...........the cleanliness of that plane leads me to think that its never been used?
Cheers,
Adam
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1st November 2004, 06:50 PM #20New Member
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Stanley plane blades
Hi Pat.
Try Mik International in Adelaide.
www.mik.com.au.
They have good selection of plane blades.
Stanley blades. They also had a jap plane blade. That would fit your stanley plane. It was about twice the price but holds it's edge alot longer.
Happy Planing
Moses
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1st November 2004, 07:57 PM #21Originally Posted by LineLefty
I'm sure we can make up a type study for these, I don't expect any Americans to do so any time soon. Howabout:
Type 1: 1937-1939
Type 2: WW2, hard rubber adjusting nuts..
Type 3: Postwar - steel bits
Type 4: Whenever those rib thingys appear on the beds (about 1972)
Type 5: Whenever the beds are marked 12-00X?
Type 6: 1983-present. The G12-00X planes
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4th November 2004, 09:35 AM #22
English Planes
Zitan.Thanks for info. From the information I am estimating that it a type 1. I have posted some pics to see if you or someone else can confirm.
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4th November 2004, 09:50 AM #23
Hi Pat;
Yep; I think that's the earliest English 6 I've seen. Look at how fat that casting is!
The handles are without a doubt stained beech (maybe they never used rosewood), brass handle nuts, "STANLEY" stamped horizontally on the 3 piece lateral lever, a type 16 frog, no raised ribs at the toe and heel (these didn't appear on sizes 5 1/2, 6, 7 or 8 till after the war) or on the bed, angular shaped blade and cap iron, fully finished lever cap.
Is the adjusting nut brass?
And just to be absolutely sure, could you snap a pic of the main casting with the frog removed? Just want to take a look at the casting here.
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4th November 2004, 11:52 AM #24
Yes it is a brass adjusting nut and you had to ask for the only photo that I did not think of taking Does this help? If not I'll get a photo next week.
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4th November 2004, 02:21 PM #25
Hi Pat;
Actually I meant something like the picture below. On the left is a late (1938) "type 16" 5 1/2, on right is an early (1948-49) "type 19" 7, both American.
These two types cause the most confusion since all other things look the same except for the frog area. I see lots of 5s advertised as prewar when actually they're postwar.
Which does yours look like?
LineLefty - clean and shiny, no these ones don't get used
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5th November 2004, 08:49 AM #26
Zitan, photo as requested. Hope it helps, apologies for the poor photography.
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5th November 2004, 09:02 AM #27
Hi Pat;
First time I've seen an English Bailey with that frog style. Looks just like the "type 16" so unless anyone else has some better info, I'd say your 6 is pre- WW2 (assuming they actually had time to make planes before the war). Is the part just behind the mouth machined?
The "type 18 or 19+" style looks like it was done to make it easier to drill and tap the hole for the frog adjustment screw - obviously easier to do a through hole than a blind one.
There's a couple of other minor details if anyone really cares about this stuff ;-)
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5th November 2004, 08:14 PM #28well aged but not old
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I don't have a question or a problem. But I do have an old Bailey no 7 jointer plane that is clearly marked made in England. I will try to get some numbers off it so I can find out when it was made. The man I got it from told me it was about 45 or 50 years old. Even though I have a 6 inch jointer to straighten edges quickly this old plane is a joy to use and I often will use it in preference to the machine. It is quiet and does not require a dust extractor. It leaves a nice clean edge. When you get a long, uniform shaving from one end of the board to the other that indicates a jointed edge there is a fair bit of satisfaction too.
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7th May 2016, 12:23 AM #29Senior Member
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Apologies for thread necromancy, but every time I search for information to date an english plane, this thread comes up!
Now, there appears to have been images in this thread at one point, just wondering if I must speak an incarnation to see them? Of if they were lost in a dreaded forum upgrade or migration?
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13th June 2018, 01:22 AM #30New Member
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Like kenour I realise this thread is very old but I too keep finding it on Google searches!
This is the best info I have found so far:
Stanley English Type Study Draft | TimeTestedTools
Has anyone found anything else? I have a few Stanley planes that I would like to date, but there's not much info out there.
Thanks
Darren.