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Thread: Twiggy Forrest
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24th October 2020, 12:16 AM #16
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Most likely they (The 100 workers ) could not find $200,000,000
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24th October 2020, 12:16 AM #17
It is indeed a conundrum.
The problem is (in this particular case) is broader than the capital needed to own and operate a boot factory.
The R M Williams brand by itself is worth far more than the factory that makes their boots. However, the factory without the brand probably would be only marginally profitable. You may be better off working for wages than being a (part) owner of a boot factory.
Then there is the rest of the operation of warehouse(s), stores, et cetera.
The other thing about the whole chain of transactions that triggered this discussion that I barely touched on is this: The company may have well folded entirely if another owner had not stepped up to buy RM's earlier.
As it is, the company is still running without an interruption in trading. The brand value has been maintained (and arguably improved) and the boot factory is still operating and employing people that make a very fine product. The process was not ideal, but the outcome is better than what looked like the inevitable outcome.
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24th October 2020, 12:16 AM #18
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24th October 2020, 12:19 AM #19
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24th October 2020, 01:30 AM #20
It was only my thoughts. It wasnt my intention to create discord, nor enmity.
Seems strange to pay $2 mill per employee.
Once, I was in IT and during the DotCom, we did a MBO. From memory it was $120k per employee and the biz was an jackpot-ATM.
Why would Twiggy buy under such terms? Perhaps let it fail, buy the ops/name from creditors for peanuts and re-hire everyone.
I'll need to read the articles.
Either way, I'm pleased that an iconic business was "saved". I like the clothing.
edit - It has ~900 employees and an absolutely huge distribution system. Twiggy paid only 9X on profits. This put it into the bargain-bin and an excellent opportunity, especially since he bought 100% and gave all the minority shareholders the flick... R. M. Williams (company) - Wikipedia. I'd wager heavily that this will be listed by EOFY. Classic buy-strip-loadupWithDebt-flog....
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24th October 2020, 07:23 AM #21
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Te other aspect of ownership by the employees is not everyone is interested or perhaps capable of investing in and running a business
Apart from differing financial circumstances, aspirations, abilities etc you have people at different stages of their life perhaps approaching retirement so it is of no interest to them .
Personally I would not want to get involved with having X amount of business partners and the problems that would come with that
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24th October 2020, 11:14 AM #22
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Something which has steel capped toes, doesn't cost an arm and a leg, has rubber soles and heels and slips on and off easily before entering the house. I'd buy Rossis if they had steel caps but have yet to find an Aussie made boot which fits all criteria.
I've also owned RMs for 60 years and as long as the leather remains intact (Photo below), they last forever and are the most comfortable boot around. Back when I was not frightened of falling off a horse, the leather soles on RMs were de rigeur. These days my good pair is for town use only.
Old RMs.jpg
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24th October 2020, 11:46 AM #23
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25th October 2020, 10:34 AM #24
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Thanks for that, haven’t heard anything about it but will certainly look into it.
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Bob
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25th October 2020, 10:57 AM #25
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25th October 2020, 03:32 PM #26
I was out at the Rossi factory about 12 months ago to get some bargains from their factory outlet store. I wouldn’t be surprised if there cheaper range were manufactured O.S. but from what I could see it was still an operational factory. Also picked up a pair of steel caps, elastic sided, rubber sole with heal, as work site boots!
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3rd November 2020, 11:28 AM #27
Why leather soles for horse riding?
I went horse riding a few weeks back on a 3000 hectare property near Sofala.
Well I sat on the horse (a bloody tall one!) and it followed the horse in front sedately.
Very relaxing and much easier on the bum than the bike saddle from the previous week’s madness around Mudgee,Dunedoo,Gulgong,Mendooran and Ballimore.Pubs were good.
Always liked horse riding especially when the horse is interested in the job at hand and you just hang on and look like you know what you’re doing.
Some thing else to blame when you bounce off rather than your own stupidity or lack of skill/overconfidence as on a motorcycle.
Lots of stuff I did way too little of back when I was young enough but looks like I need to raid the slush fund for an ebike to flatten out those hills and power thru the sand.
Bit off subject but hey better than the conversations after a few cool drinks with people you’ve known for 50 or 60 years. You can just about number the jokes and stories.
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6th November 2020, 01:31 PM #28
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As a young fella I spent a lot of time looking at cattle bums between a horses ears. The reason for leather soles and heels is to allow the foot to slip from the stirrup backwards if thrown. Nothing worse than a drag round the paddock. The high heels (cuban ) prevent the foot sliding forward through the stirrup and the rider then becoming caught by the heel.
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19th November 2020, 08:49 AM #29Now proudly sponsored by Binford Tools. Be sure to check out the Binford 6100 - available now at any good tool retailer.
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19th November 2020, 09:05 AM #30
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