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[astrid]

Niel,
Is that Dia, Dire or dying
and you smack me for trying to kill off the newbies.

Astrid

[MacS]

Hi Neil,

Your speaking with a fork tounge, its gotta be one way or the other.

Take it, or leave it, its just not worth it, they are too dangerous and there are better and safer coloring subsitutes availible today.

For all who read this post, why don't you try going into some paint stores with small bottles, and ask them to fill up the bottles up for free!(lol)

All of those that get the free paste piigments, will please come back here and post your rewards or dissapointments.

If you attempted this in the USA, they would never give it to you, maybe in Aussieland they maybe more generous, lets see the results of those who go forth to see if they can get it for free.

And, also try going into the chemists, maybe they are giving away free dyes for the new year. (lol)

: )

MacS

[ubeaut]

If you attempted this in the USA, they would never give it to you

I don't care if they're penny pinching, mean hearted, shopkeepers in the US here in AUSTRALIA (The LUCKY COUNTRY) it is possible to get the free samples from most paint shops and if not you take your business elsewhere. Go to a real shop in the US and I'm sure you will get thew same service. That's if you can find one that isn't part of a big conglomerate. Be nice and don't make a habit of it and I'm sure you will get the same response as here. In the mean time.....

WAKE UP MAC

THIS IS AN AUSTRALIAN FORUM

Not only that but the answer I submitted was for an Australian member. So either come to OZ and see for yourself or pull your head in.

Your speaking with a fork tounge, its gotta be one way or the other.

NO I DON'T. I can have it any way I dam well please so can Jay or anyone else and it has nothing what so ever to do with you. I have used and will continue use the nasty stuff if needed. As have and do most of the top restorers in the world.

I also promote and recommend new finishing staining and dying techniques. Just because someone doesn't agree with your ideas doesn't mean they are wrong or that you are necessarily right just that you are prolific at telling people about your way.

Either behave on these forums and stop abusing people like Jay, and others just because they have a different point of view to you, or leave. You have some good info but are like a stuck record, pushing your ways and ideas above all others.

All have the right to their own opinion and way of doing things even you. So let others be. After all finishing isn't an exact science but a continually evolving one and all should be allowed to share their knowledge, experiments, failures, successes, favourite finishes, dyes, stains, etc without fear of ridiculed, abused or being tolt they're talking BS.

Neil

PS this is the shortened less vitriolic version of my original.

[astrid]

My local hardware store;
cuts my timber to size for me and planes it down.
and will give me a sqirt of colour if i want to tint some small quantity of paint.
The local goldsmith give me acid if i need a bit
and the hairdresser gives me peroxide.
I have a couple of comtacts with big restorers who give me a bit of timber when i need some or any other out of the ordinary product.
all in return for a smile and a sticky bun.

Small Businesses support each other.

Astrid

[ubeaut]

If you find 880, potassium bichromate etc.......

Bad wording on my part there you was meant to be anyone and not pointed at Steph. Yes including you Mac, Astrid and anyone else.

Astrid. I am not advocating they bathe in the stuff like you were with the Oxalix Acid.

I guess selective reading by both you and Mac must have missed this bit.

However having said that I would also say this: If you're inexperienced keep well away from all this stuff as it can kill you if you don't know what you're doing. Maybe not right away but even a short exposure to some of these chemicals in the wrong way can have dire results. Most are carcinogenic some will rip the flesh from your bones or burn your lungs out and they're the good ones.

I have no sense of humour this morning.

Neil - with no smile

[stef1611]

Hi everyone,

I am truly sorry that my question that I thought innocent sparked so much debate. I do appreciate all these inputs, if anything they made me realize how dangerous some of those chemicals are. If there is anybody around parramatta (30 kms radius is ok) who experiments often with stains and finishing, I'd love to come have a look and learn. At the moment I enjoy making furniture but when comes the moment of the finishing I get scared of stuffing the whole thing up which makes me realize how little I know about the subject. None of my work colleague has a clue about woodworking, let alone finishing... I know nobody.
Anybody, please pm me if you are willing to show me your secrets of finishing...lol.... I bring the beers (I am addicted to James Squire since I came to Australia...lol).
Cheers
Steph