Paedo-bloody-philes

[silentC]

Sorry, and I meant to say that this line of argument being given to us by psychologists is just part of the errosion of responsibility that is afflicting society. While they are looking for reasons as to why people do these things, they are giving them an armoury of arguments to use in their defense.

You are responsible for your own actions. You and no-one else.

[Ashore]

Stayed away from this thread for I thought I would not be able to add anything that had not already been said , but some replies seem to have a totally diffrent view to what I expected to see.

I know this goes against some peoples ideas but a pedaphile can be reabilitated they just need to have the error of their ways explained and told how their actions have effected anothers family

This needs to be done by the male members of the family with the female members assisting in a locked room so as not to be disturbed.
It should be explained repeatedly until all the family is satisfied, and the child can be told that the person will never bother or see them again

The thing should then be left locked in the room un interupted for a couple of months to reflect.

And if it was one of the lowest of that low breed where it was their own child then a group of volunteers should act in the role of the family.

I believe that this would save the child a lot of agony going through a court case etc...and the pedophile would not re offend.
Where as in the past there have been serious questions asked about corruption in the judical system and perhaps some were not given their just deserts.





The trouble with life is there's no background music.

[glock40sw]

SNIP...Or you could use a bullet - not ethically or morally correct. SNIP...:eek:

It is in my book.
Do the crime, get a bullet.
China will actually send a bill to the family of the executed for the cost of the bullet used to off their relative.

The Ultimate height of the USER PAYS SYSTEM ?????


Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor.
Grafton

[shaunburgess]

Besides the small sentences being handed out what really gets to me is the Politicians who will not legislate harsher penalties for these scum bags. I thought it was the duty of everyone of us (adults and societies) to protect the young. Yet we allow school teachers, religious nuts and others to molest our children (and i count myself responsible for all children) and then get away with 1 years jail or less....The church are so worried about being sued that they will not help the children molested but try to cover it up.......forgetting the reason they are there is to help

[HappyHammer]

Ashore almost got it right apart from missing out that they should be dead at the end of the families visit. This is a little selfish but if that happened to one of my kids I wouldn't be able to sleep until I'd personally dished out the justice and they wouldn't be leaving the room.

I know there's all that "think about the rest of your family not having you around" but I wouldn't be worth living with until I'd got it out of my system, like I said a little selfish but there you go.

HH.

[Ashore]

Ashore almost got it right apart from missing out that they should be dead at the end of the families visit.
HH.

"The thing should then be left locked in the room un interupted for a couple of months to reflect."

Left alone in a locked room no food or water I meant " just to be sure"





The trouble with life is there's no background music.

[Auld Bassoon]

I like to think that I am fairly balanced in most things I do and most of my opinions. But this does boil me up because I don't believe that you can rehabilate these people. If there are any shrinks amongst you I am happy to argue my point till the cows come home.

I say lock them up and throw the key away. From what we see day in day out most of these people cannot be rehabilitated, why place more children and more families at risk???? We lock them up for 1 year, we give them psychologists, and they come out more cunning and more disturbed than ever before.

Throw out the key!

Yes, and just let the regular "crims" get hold of the swine. For the object in question, to quote an author whose name I can't recall at the moment, "they'll learn a whole new sport. It's called survival".

No "cheers!" on this one.

[Dion N]

The replies to this post so far illustrate why we have developed a system of laws and courts in our society. If we left "justice" in the hands of the victim or the victim's family we would simply end up with revenge, not justice.

All this talk of inflicting suffering and torture on criminals is simply lowering ourselves to their level. Crime must still be punished, but in a humane manner. I'm no bleeding heat liberal, and I agree that many of these criminals reoffend. I do think that a paedophile who offends a second time and shows no desire to reform should be permanently detained for the good of the community. I certainly don't agree with anyone who suggests torturing or killing paedophiles.

[Ashore]

I had a mate who 10 years ago advocated the total banning of bull bars , he put up great arguements against them, and was sencere in his arguements.

On a holiday to Adelaide via broken hill hit a roo that smashed his windscreen
He was ok kids badly shaken and wife got some cuts and bruises.

He has since retired, bought a camper trailor and Prado to do the round ausi trip and guess what is fitted on the front of the prado.

I guess him being personally affected changed his views somewhat.

[HappyHammer]

I do think that a paedophile who offends a second time and shows no desire to reform should be permanently detained for the good of the community.

You're joking right, second time? Not sure the second victim would agree with you there.:confused:

HH.

[silentC]

The replies to this post so far illustrate why we have developed a system of laws and courts in our society. If we left "justice" in the hands of the victim or the victim's family we would simply end up with revenge, not justice.

That's one way of looking at it. The other is to let the punishment fit the crime. There are other legal systems than ours and in some of them, it is an eye for an eye. Our's errs on the side of caution but it lets a lot of people off scott free. You have to wonder what sort of deterrent it really is.

[ernknot]

I reckon excecute the SOB's. Why should my taxes pay for these filth to be able to put in appeals followed by appeals. Why should my taxes feed these !~@#$@#$%!@#$. Why should my taxes allow them to study, excercise, access libraries, gyms, pools, TV, internet ad naseum.
The poor kid which has been molested gets bugger all, oops, sorry , a little bit of public sympathy on TV. The victim will not get free legal access, free study, free excercise, free meals, free etc. etc. etc.
Worst of all, this scum gets out after a few years due to "good behaviour". How can they misbehave for crying out loud! There are no children in jail!
I get whole heartedly sick of every crim saying they were molested, ill treated, groped, mislead by looking at movies, TV, being misunderstood etc. etc. This ***** is being fed to them by lawyers and shrinks. ( Keeps both employed and makes them wealthy)
Next thing someone will tell me that the terrorist caught in London should be given a second chance because the bombs did not go off and they did not hurt anyone.

[Caliban]

Yet we allow school teachers, religious nuts and others to molest our children

Hey
Back off buddy.
Don't tar everyone with the same brush.
I abhor the crimes of these basturds as much as you do, but I'm a school teacher and we don't need you calling us paedophiles.Sure some teachers are, but why single out one profession. What about all the poor kids who've been abused in backyard sheds by woodies(grandpas, dads, uncles etc etc)
I'll personally throw the switch on the next teacher convicted, but don't make it sound like we are all the problem. :mad:

[DavidG]

Rightly or wrongly we have a legal system.
Those that want to work outside that system are terrorists and should be dealt with as such.

If you do not agree with the law then vote to get it changed but do not try to incite violence against others.




Now where did I leave that 12g.

[doug the slug]

Hey
Back off buddy.
Don't tar everyone with the same brush.
I abhor the crimes of these basturds as much as you do, but I'm a school teacher and we don't need you calling us paedophiles.Sure some teachers are, but why single out one profession. What about all the poor kids who've been abused in backyard sheds by woodies(grandpas, dads, uncles etc etc)
I'll personally throw the switch on the next teacher convicted, but don't make it sound like we are all the problem. :mad:

Hovo, lets keep it in perspective, im sure that shaun didnt say that every member of the professions he listed are responsible. he was merely listing occupations who are in a position of trust with our most precious of all commodities. you know as well as the rest of us that SOME of them have offended, but its not the majority, far from it. in fact, hovo, unless you can give an ironclad guarantee that no schoolteacher is a paedophile then your post is out of order in the context that i believe shaun intended it.
i commend you for sticking up for your profession and i, and i assume the majority of members of this forum and the community in general admire your work, not all of you, or any other profession are squeaky clean