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  1. #16
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    Missed by that much . .

    My reply was to Termite, Not DaveInOz

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    Ok, exluding this post, from now on everyone must do thier posts in either iambic pentameter or in Haiku.
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    What is Haiku?

    Haiku is one of the most important form of traditional japanese poetry. Haiku is, today, a 17-syllable verse form consisting of three metrical units of 5, 7, and 5 syllables. Since early days, there has been confusion between the three related terms Haiku, Hokku and Haikai. The term hokku literally means "starting verse", and was the first starting link of a much longer chain of verses known as haika. Because the hokku set the tone for the rest of the poetic chain, it enjoyed a privileged position in haikai poetry, and it was not uncommon for a poet to compose a hokku by itself without following up with the rest of the chain.
    Largely through the efforts of Masaoka Shiki, this independence was formally established in the 1890s through the creation of the term haiku. This new form of poetry was to be written, read and understood as an independent poem, complete in itself, rather than part of a longer chain.
    Strictly speaking, then, the history of haiku begins only in the last years of the 19th century. The famous verses of such Edo-period (1600-1868) masters as Basho, Yosa Buson, and Kobayashi Issa are properly referred to as hokku and must be placed in the perspective of the history of haikai even though they are now generally read as independent haiku. In HAIKU for PEOPLE, both terms will be treated equally! The distinction between hokku and haiku can be handled
    by using the terms Classical Haiku and Modern Haiku.

    Modern Haiku.
    The history of the modern haiku dates from Masaoka Shiki's reform, begun in 1892, which established haiku as a new independent poetic form. Shiki's reform did not change two traditional elements of haiku: the division of 17 syllables into three groups of 5, 7, and 5 syllables and the inclusion of a seasonal theme.
    Kawahigashi Hekigoto carried Shiki's reform further with two proposals:


    Haiku would be truer to reality if there were no center of interest in it.
    The importance of the poet's first impression, just as it was, of subjects taken
    from daily life, and of local colour to create freshness.

    Don't blame me blame Grunt

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    Don't encourage him Grunt, he's becoming impossible
    Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.

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    Ain't Google wonderful ?

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    Google carefully
    In the vastness of cyber space
    You could find yourself
    Great minds discuss ideas,
    average minds discuss events,
    small minds discuss people

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveInOz
    Google carefully
    In the vastness of cyber space
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    Ah so David san, velly nice.

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    There was a time when a google was a boiled egg.
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    There ia a school of thought that says that Iambic pentameters were actually meant to be sung.

    There is a bloke who has just converted "Much ado about nothing" into a musical to be presented in February in the parks of Melbourne.

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    Quote: "Iambic pentameter is a meter in poetry, consisting of lines with five feet (hence "pentameter")"

    If you had 5 feet, how would you do the Hokey Pokey?

    You put your 3rd from the left foot in......

    It just won't scan!!!!!!

    There was a young man from Japan
    Whose poems I just couldn't scan
    When I told him so
    He replied, "Yes, I know"
    "Because it has always been my practice to fit as many words into the last line as I possibly can".

    It only takes one drink to get me loaded. Trouble is, I can't remember if it's the thirteenth or fourteenth.

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    iambic pentameter (eye-am-bik pen-tam-uh-tuhr)

    The most common meter in English verse. It consists of a line ten syllables long that is accented on every second beat (see blank verse). These lines in... (showing 200 of 573 characters)

    Meter or Metre

    A measure of rhythmic quantity, the organized succession of groups of syllables at basically regular intervals in a line of poetry, according to definite metrical patterns. In classic Greek... (showing 205 of 536 characters)

    i·am·bic (ī-ăm'bĭk)
    adj.
    Consisting of iambs or characterized by their predominance: iambic pentameter.

    n.
    1. An iamb.
    2. A verse, stanza, or poem written in iambs. Often used in the plural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert WA
    There was a young man from Japan
    Whose poems I just couldn't scan
    When I told him so
    He replied, "Aah So"
    Squizzy

    "It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all" {screamed by maths teacher in Year 8}

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    Quote Originally Posted by
    There ia a school of thought that says that Iambic pentameters were actually meant to be sung.

    There is a bloke who has just converted "Much ado about nothing" into a musical to be presented in February in the parks of Melbourne.
    At least it's not as highbrow as that fancy-schmantzy new musical version of Debbie does Dallas. Fair dinkum, musical theatre is SO out of touch with the common man...

    More iabmic pentameters I say.... :eek: :eek:


    Oh, and , what's this "There is a bloke who..." bizness, we all know modesty precludes you from revealing your musical bent...


    Cheers.............Sean the lyrical waxer


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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter

    More iabmic pentameters I say.... :eek: :eek:

    Shouldeth that not read 'Say I'?
    Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.

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    Out out damned mistake...


    Cheers say I ...........Sean the wordmasher


    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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