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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Tiff View Post
    One company used to make a pointy tapered drill bit that you drilled into a blemish, then took a dowel of your plugging timber and put it into a pencil sharpener to get the matching taper. Bit of glue, wack it in and trim flush.
    Still do!

    Here is a local - Wooden Nails – Japanese Tools Australia

    Here is an Ali vendor on some end-mills that might do in a pinch: VACK Carbide Ball Nose End Mills 3.175mm 4mm 6mm 8mm .... I did see some tapered drill bits on Ali, but can't seem to find them today. Will update if I do A-ha! It was Xtorque from SydneyTools! Sydney Tools - countersink-bits-wood


    I've found nails are easy to make in some volume, but a little time consuming. One uses dowels (either lengths bought or made in a plate as in my other post) and use a drill and a jig on a sanding disk to shape them... let me find a picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    I’m just in the finishing stages of a Deck for a client, would you like to quote for 700 ish screw holes too be timber plugged .

    An it’s a small deck !!.

    Cheers Matt.
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    Close… but the specific item I was thinking about is no longer made . It was Veritas’ “The Plugger”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    would you like to quote for 700 ish screw holes too be timber plugged
    Certainly; I only charge a dollar-fifty per hole plus mobilisation costs to & from Bundy, providing that suitable plugging material is provided by the client. You might need to loan me a hammer. And a sharp chisel. And another sharp chisel in case I hit one of the screw heads with the first one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Tiff View Post
    Certainly; I only charge a dollar-fifty per hole plus mobilisation costs to & from Bundy, providing that suitable plugging material is provided by the client. You might need to loan me a hammer. And a sharp chisel. And another sharp chisel in case I hit one of the screw heads with the first one.

    Sounds fair an reasonable,I be in touch, maybe.

    Cheers Matt.

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    Thank you very much for your valuable inputs. woodPixel - I'll definitely add that dowel banger tool to my wishlist.

    I think at this stage I'll go with that Earl's merbau-tint putty mainly because I want to finish this project while it's still warm enough here in Melb to apply Cutek
    It also the easiest one to undo/replace should something go terribly wrong with it (and again, my deck is more like balcony - covered and with waist-height side walls). I'll definitely post some pictures when I'm done and hopefully more in 12 months to see how it fares.

    While I have your attention:
    * What should be recommended gap size between boards? Couldn't find any references for 70x19mm merbau. For 90mm they recommend 3-4mm which sounds a bit too small. My wood is seasoned (I'm reusing the wood that was on the same deck before for the most of it). On my other deck (same materials) the gaps are around 4.8-5.5mm. Should I go with 5mm?
    * Would 50mm screws will be enough? Or better 65mm? (My joists are some kind of old softwood, 50mm wide: Deck joist - Album on Imgur)


    Thanks again for all your wisdom.

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    If your joists are in good condition with no rot from the previous holes then 50mm should be OK, but you will need to go deeper if the fibres are soft and have started to rot. I use G-Tape on top of the joists before laying the boards. Also I bought some deck clamp attachments for my Irwin type clamps from Bunnings, see link for how they work Quick Tip: Clamping Deck Boards With An Irwin Mod || Dr Decks - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camelot View Post
    If your joists are in good condition with no rot from the previous holes then 50mm should be OK, but you will need to go deeper if the fibres are soft and have started to rot. I use G-Tape on top of the joists before laying the boards. Also I bought some deck clamp attachments for my Irwin type clamps from Bunnings, see link for how they work Quick Tip: Clamping Deck Boards With An Irwin Mod || Dr Decks - YouTube
    Joists are still solid. And yeah, g-tape all the way! : Joists with g-tape - Album on Imgur
    50mm it is then.
    If I become paranoid I'll mb put 65mm on the ends of the boards.
    Another thought for 50mm is if in the future I will need to replace a board, I can then switch to 65mm screws for it.

    And I'll be going with 5mm gaps after all.

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