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29th November 2007, 05:58 PM #16
Happy Feet
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settle down brickie,
I was refering to a person fat or otherwise that dominates his union members or if an employer his workers.
This is going to be an uncomfortable thread so i sugest posters read the posts carefully and think about replies.
Astrid
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29th November 2007, 05:58 PM #17
Well, my view of unions is that they are a sort of "necessary evil"; although the use of the word evil is harsh. To my way of thinking the system works through binary oppositions of Greenies/rednecks, unions/unfair employers, conservatives/progressives, leftist politics/rightist politics, brickies/humans (that one's for you, Al
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In the other thread I was annoyed by those who are just so one-sided that they "hate" unions with a passion and forget that we don't function all that well as a society without such checks and balances.
Let's look at the greenies for example. For years conservatives have been treating greenies as if they are scum, but now we're all starting to accept that the message they were presenting to us was right. We have been damaging the environment.
I see unions as doing something of the same thing in the workplace. You just can't have all of the power on one side, because we humans are a nasty greedy lot who tend to exploit those over whom we have power.
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29th November 2007, 06:01 PM #18
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29th November 2007, 06:01 PM #19
This is a once off warning. It is purely by good grace that I am letting this thread go (for now)
If any personal attacks, comments etc start, infractions will be given to the guilty parties and any future discussion on this topic will be banned.
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29th November 2007, 06:01 PM #20
Astrid, when I grew up one of the things my parents taught me was that it was a bad idea for people in glass houses to throw stones!
If you read your own posts prior to this, there isn't a comma in sight, and capitals are few and far between as well.
I won't join in the union debate, either for or against, but you at least gave me a laugh with your gratuitous advice to wheelin re punctuation.
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29th November 2007, 06:05 PM #21
Happy Feet
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Ok, but you cant nominate someone without their say so, in any election, and for the vote to be valid.
I suggest that your election would be invalid and you didnt need to resign, just say, whah! b-- off
astrid
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29th November 2007, 06:08 PM #22
I used to find in many unions through people I dealt with that their particular union laws etc stated that "No Management could be a Union rep" all to often who's the rep a supervisor a manager, a forman. These days Union reps could be breaching their own union laws by having shares through managed investments in the company they work for such as their own super for example.
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29th November 2007, 06:09 PM #23
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Business across from me, non unoin, 10 staff, very well looked after, made a large piece of equipment for the Mint. The owner and 2 workers followed the semi to spend the day to install it. On arivall, naturaly they wernt allowed in to finish the job because they didnt have a ticket. After a few hours they gave up and were resigned to the fact they had no option but to join.
But that wasnt all. They had to join the unions super fund, BUT their is more, they had to transfere ALL the super from their own accounts and deposit into the unions account. Fair dinkum what a joke. Like Al, i also loath them. Yes they might do some good, but in general they are nothing but a bunch of jerks.
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29th November 2007, 06:10 PM #24
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And BS somtimes punctuation is not that important when your meaning is easily decipherable, Yeah my spelling can be atroshus too.
but as i said, this is going to be a bit contentous so we should take a little more care if our meaning is to not be misconstrued.
alright?
Astrid
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29th November 2007, 06:13 PM #25
Unions;
Seen 'em do good,
seen 'em do "Not so Good"........ ie Bad!
Then again,
I've had some VERY!!!! GOOD Bosses,
I've had some attrocious Bosses as well.
Hmmmmm
Have a look at the top of the Telecom PILE
Both Unions, and Bosses cover the SpectrumNavvi
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29th November 2007, 06:16 PM #26
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29th November 2007, 06:17 PM #27
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29th November 2007, 06:18 PM #28
Happy Feet
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Wheelin, but pardon me that is rubbish,
When I was rep most of our members were supervisors or management me included.
we just put on another hat when dealing with workplace issues, as a lot of people who come up through the ranks are expected to do.
those who couldnt were swiftly sat on and politley asked to leave management concerns for the appropriate time and forum.
astrid
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29th November 2007, 06:25 PM #29
Union member half my working life. Non union member for rest.
Never noticed the difference.
Never had any problems, contact, or use for unions.
Put me in the rats ring group.
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29th November 2007, 06:26 PM #30
Happy Feet
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Hi rowen,
I dont think anyone is being hurt or insulted, we're all big kids and if they dont enjoy the debate they wouldnt be on it.
if anyone insults personally or is abusive by all means take it down.
Astrid
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