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Thread: Toolholder and Collet Storage
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5th May 2013, 09:03 PM #16Philomath in training
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Storage? Let's see -
Milling tool holders are in a wheel out trolley that stows behind the mill. The wooden tray is removable but is for short tools. The holes in the metal work at the top are for when working on the mill, where as the wooden tray is for storage (holds 10 + a vertical head draw bar). In the bottom section are the horizontal arbors and draw bars.
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ER collets are on a board with pegs on it (ER25) in a case with a foam fitted liner with holes (ER40). The pegs work ok - the smaller size collets are only to size in the front half, allowing large pegs.
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Morse drills are in a drawer under the drill press. The drawer has two sheets of plywood with holes coresponding to the Morse taper sizes. The two taper sleeves are on pegs.
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Change gears & bushes for the lathe have a little rack I made up. The dividing head gears have something similar.
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Michael
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5th May 2013, 09:07 PM #17SENIOR MEMBER
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Yes, that riles me too. I always put my measuring gear in it's case after using, and treat it kindly.
Cutters are a bit different, but I always put them in a wooden drawer with the tips down onto the base to protect them.
Some people are just plain rough with everything.
Ummm, Michael, you sure are organised. That's about 500% up on my effort. But I'm willing to improve.
Cheers
Rob
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5th May 2013, 09:16 PM #18SENIOR MEMBER
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HI,
My Er32 Collets and Chuck are kept in the Plastic Box that they came in. What R8 Collets that I have are kept in two Biscuit Tins (metric/imperial). The R8 are kept in the tins in their plastic sleeves or cardboard boxes.
If I had to make something up I to store the Collets and Chuck. I would use either MDF, Pine, Aluminium or Chopping Boards. I like Michaels Trolley idea for the Collets and Chucks and having it fitted with Lids is a good idea to keep both the Dust and Swarf of them.All The Best steran50 Stewart
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5th May 2013, 09:19 PM #19SENIOR MEMBER
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Yeah I like your little change gear rack Michael, I just leave my little stack in a neat little pyramid under the lathe. All it's missing on yours is a little handle on top so you can tote it with you to church on Sundays For some reason that reminds me of a milk bottle holder we did at school as a welding project. Back in the days of milkies ... and school welding projects
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5th May 2013, 09:30 PM #20
Using a plastic cutting board is a nice idea, I bought wooden boxes for ER32 and ER40 from these guys.. Collet Organizing, Collet Boxes, Collet Trays - MariTool
For the ER11 collets, Josh machined up a box out of machinable wax on the small CNC.. But the best I've seen is the collet storage Stuart made from shopping bags.. https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/ma...4/#post1540529
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Ray
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5th May 2013, 09:34 PM #21SENIOR MEMBER
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5th May 2013, 10:58 PM #22.
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Lidless Bob.
When I was using my little Hercus mill I had a couple of chucks on the go and stored then in a Fischer plastic box along with the collet tray. I too suffer from the same corrosion problem.
Bob.
ps. I just looked at Michael's pegboard and I reckon I've found the answer for my W20 storage. Thanks Michael.
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5th May 2013, 11:06 PM #23Senior Member
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Pete F,
The cutting boards for end mills sounds good as it would always hold a little oil in the groove, up here I find that if I don't have the tools oiled and sealed off they soon start to rust. My end mills are currently still stored in the original individual plastic cases they come in but they will not last forever.I have found that having tooling in wooden boxes is not always enough as the wood absorbs the oil, one of my sets of Swiss verniers started to develop light rust in its original wooden felt lined box.
Dave J,
Your plan sounds just like my set up Dave, I brought one of those Calibre 9 drawer tool boxes that Super Cheap Auto sell and have all of my mill tooling in it and it is just behind my mill so it is nice and handy.Some good ideas have come out from everyone.
Bob
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5th May 2013, 11:11 PM #24.
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6th May 2013, 07:51 AM #25Philomath in training
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6th May 2013, 09:01 AM #26Senior Member
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Bob,
"Mine is Swiss and in a wooden box "
It looks like we both have similar verniers.Mine developed some corrosion on the jaws where they rest on the felt lined ledge in the box, it looked and felt like the felt
was compressed and had gone hard and dry. I always used to wipe them dry with a clean cloth after use,since finding this problem I apply a thin film of oil to them and added a sheet of the anti corrosion paper.
Your collet storage is very similar to mine it ensures clean rust free collets.
Bob
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6th May 2013, 09:48 AM #27
I live in fear of later is year moving my shop to 25 metres from salt water. I reckon I should get an aquarium full of oil and a dip net.
It's all part of the service here at The House of Pain™
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6th May 2013, 10:17 AM #28Senior Member
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Greg,
I live right on the water's edge, my backyard is the Richmond River at Ballina. I have found it best to wrap/store all tooling in oiled plastic containers and leave a film of oil on all machined surfaces on my machines and then nothing rusts. Trying my luck fishing.
Bob
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6th May 2013, 11:26 AM #29.
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Hey Bob,
You got the deluxe box, mine is the austere unlined version. I annoint all gear with either 3 in 1 oil , Hoppe's Gun Grease or whatever's soaked into my current piece of Costco (courtesy GQ) blue towel. Etalon made their verniers from stainless. Sadly even Swiss stainless can rust.
I looked at another Etalon vernier recently on Ebay and saw those same two holes in the rear of the slide. I thought some Philistine had been at work with his drill press. What do you reckon they are for?
I live a couple of hundred metres from the Swan. Where I am there's more chance of catching malaria than a fish.
Bob.
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6th May 2013, 12:02 PM #30SENIOR MEMBER
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Oh good grief! I'm so sorry I completely missed that! Me being the heathen that I am, worshipping the God of Module!
Greg let's face it, I think the only hope you have is to set up an impact rotor type sprinkler system spraying pure anti-corrosion oil over the workshop, as you time your machining operations between sequential sweeps of the sprinkler blasts!