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6th May 2013, 12:37 AM #16Senior Member
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Bret, Eddie,
Thanks for the visit....
Made my first (of what will be many) errors during the brake assembly.
The first pic shows the assembly diagram. I assumed (always a bad idea) that the pivot arms would fit thru the brace header as shown. They were too large so it required some sanding and trimming to fit.
The jigsaw nature of the pics also prompted me to first install the brake shoe brace backwards....which caused me to put the extensions backwards.....
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Also still learning how to manage posting pics...
Cheers,
Jim
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6th May 2013, 01:12 AM #17
We all make mistakes along the way. Plans can be hard to follow sometimes.
Don't let it bother you - at least they're reversible.
Looking good so far.... Steve
-- Monkey see, monkey do --
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7th May 2013, 01:19 AM #18New Member
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Hello there Jim,
You found a great place to build your stagecoach.
I'm sure you will get all the help you need.
I'm looking forward to your build.
Good luck and happy modeling.
Anja
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7th May 2013, 08:35 AM #19Senior Member
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Thanks, Hermit! The instructions are more pictograms than any real text based explanations....but it is quite interesting. In my next post I'll show the completed chassis and brake system. Had to redo the brake lever.....not only did it backwards (had a50/50 chance to get it right but multiplied the error by attaching it to its' shaft before threading the shaft on the chassis.......)
All is repaired and priming is about to start.
Hi Anja,
Nice to know you are watching. This is a great site for this project. Hope you and Sjors are enjoying the vacation!
Cheers,
Jim
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7th May 2013, 09:20 AM #20
G'Day & Welcome to a top forum Anja from the Netherlands.
As you have already seen there are a heap of helpful & knowledgeable blokes & ladies on the forum, especially in the toymaking section.
Make sure you show off your handiwork as everyone loves a photo and as with Jim's Stagecoach the WIP photos & build notes are appreciated enormously.
Enjoy the forum, enjoy your woodwork and enjoy Jim's build.
Cheers from "On Top DownUnder", crowie
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7th May 2013, 06:38 PM #21Skwair2rownd
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A true learning experience there Script.
These old coaches were certainly more complex than we think.
I wonder how much of the modern suspension, steering and braking
technology had its beginnings back then?
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8th May 2013, 05:28 AM #22Senior Member
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crowie, artme...Thanks for stopping by!
The chassis were certainly the model for early auto chassis.....some of the coach builders were also some of the early car builders...
And the old 'horseless carriage' was just that.......
I've now primed and put some coats of the final color on the chassis and brake assembly. I elected to go with an automotive lacquer (Chrysler yellow)that requires a clear-coat. The yellow was a bit less bright than others. The carriage will be a dark red. Evidently red and and green were the predominant carriage colors and green and yellow were the chassis colors.
On the the front axle and hitch assembly...and to the store for more yellow.....
Cheers,
Jim
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8th May 2013, 07:32 AM #23SENIOR MEMBER
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There must be 100 pieces just in the chassis rails already. So complex, I never would have thought.
But more amazing iz how quickly you work ... are you on holidays ?
cool bananas ... Greg
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9th May 2013, 10:13 AM #24Senior Member
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Greg,
There are a lot of very small parts......
As for my progress..... I will confess that I am retired......so I try to get a bit of time on my project just about every day.
Cheers,
Jim
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9th May 2013, 10:23 AM #25Senior Member
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Today was front axle assembly day.....
Still have to add a crossbar to the assembly and then add the axles to both front and rear. Also need to reinstall the brake lever and components and then back to the yellow paint.
Once that is all finished I'll be starting the wheels.........
Cheers,
Jim
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9th May 2013, 10:32 AM #26SENIOR MEMBER
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Such a pity that it has to be painted, but I do understand for authenticity that it is necessary. But that assembly looks so good in its timber and brass regalia.
Great work .... and wish I was retired too so that I could get on with the things I enjoy doing.
cool bananas ... greg
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10th May 2013, 01:42 AM #27Senior Member
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Thanks Greg,
Did you talk to my wife???? She also said it would look better not painted.....
In reality, there would probably not have been anything brass on the chassis...it would have been iron/steel.
She also thought that yellow was a dumb color for the chassis because of all the dirt and dust such coaches were exposed to.....Oh, well....
Cheers,
Jim
Finished (but yet unpainted) front axle assembly....
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15th May 2013, 08:52 AM #28Senior Member
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Seems like it has taken a long time to do very little.......
Had to cut and shape the 52 spokes for the wheels....that involved hand sanding 208 corners to give the appearance of beveled spokes.
Then primed and painted them yellow along with the front axle assembly. Now the outside edges get painted black and the trim pieces get painted yellow prior to attachment so the black shows through....pretty fancy, eh!
Cheers,
Jim
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15th May 2013, 10:14 AM #29SENIOR MEMBER
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Hard to tell from the photo. But it looks like the timber is soaking up some of the yellow. On the axle ?
But maybe these are just the first few coats .. in which case it may be easier to 'seal' first with a coat of flat white ?
But all the same, its looking great and I am guessing now, but there will be a few 1000s of parts ?
cool bananas ... greg
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15th May 2013, 10:31 AM #30Senior Member
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Hi Greg, Thanks for looking in!
Yes, even tho I used a grey primer, the wood does soak in the paint. I'm using a two stage lacquer so, hopefully, the finish will be okay. Got a couple finish coats of yellow and then clear coat.....
On the other hand......maybe it will look more authentic if it looks a bit 'weathered'?
Trying not to count the parts.......
Cheers,
Jim