Southern Star Campers

[chubby123]

you lucky matey....we have been waiting since the beginning of december.........i have lost count of how many times he has definatley (according to him) deposited the money into our account...........damn must be a rich woman by now NOT..............

[chubby123]

maybe he hasnt paid the rent........or maybe someone might of rung the real estate and infomed them of what an upstanding member of society squiddly is

[beanybabe]

to beaveroo so if you say about 25 trailers at approx 7500 each thats $187000 wheres he hid that ??????

[beaver00]

Night All...

Lets see what tommorrow brings....

[Groggy]

Since there are a number of new members who appear to have joined just to take part in this thread I would like to point out the Woodworking Australia's Woodwork Forums position in relation to discussions such as these.

I am not posting this in response to any particular post, or even suggesting the rules have been broken, but all members posting should read the rules for their own benefit and awareness.

Groggy
Forum Moderator

[munruben]

dont waist time on phone calls you will only get lies and a big phone bill get legal advice

I have been following this thread with interest and feel sorry for all of you who are out of pocket in this matter. I can understand your frustrationn and anger and I sympathise with you. Unfortunately, in reality, this is a no win situation. You may get some satisfaction by legal proceedings but bare in mind, the cost of such action is very high and a drawn out process and whether the cost and effort involved in taking such action is justified in the end is not clear cut by any means.
If this is a case for fraud or whatever, chances are you are not going to get your money back or your trailers.
Unfortunately some trade practices are unethical but quite legal in the real sense of the word. I really hope you all come out as winners in this situation but I would think long and hard before venturing on a costly and long drawn out legal proceeding that ultimately, if this person is as you say he is, you can't win. you may get some inner satisfaction but at what price?
I dont mean to rain on your parade but these facts should be taken into consideration before going off half cocked.
The media,, with all due respect, can do very little to help victims get their goods or money back. All they can do is provide bad publicity for the trader and at best put that trader out of business but unfortunately that doesn't help the victims either.
Whatever course you take, I wish you luck with it and I hope you do get what you paid for or your money refunded but I wouldnt hold my breath if I were you.

[Sturdee]

I have been following this thread with interest and feel sorry for all of you who are out of pocket in this matter. I can understand your frustrationn and anger and I sympathise with you. Unfortunately, in reality, this is a no win situation. You may get some satisfaction by legal proceedings but bare in mind, the cost of such action is very high and a drawn out process and whether the cost and effort involved in taking such action is justified in the end is not clear cut by any means.

Finally a post with commonsense advice.

If he is as clever as I think he is he would have conducted his business through various corporate structures and as such there would be no assets available.

If placed in liquidation the business would be quickly wound up as there would be no moneys to pay for a long investigation by the liquidator unless the creditors are willing to pay thousands more to finance the liquidation and then possibly to no effect. Hence this person would go scot free to start up again under a different business.

I would caution everyone as paying for a liquidator to investigate this would be very, very expensive. The irony will be that if, perchance, any criminal charges would be laid against him he would get legal aid whilst you guys would be paying for it.

Peter.

[maddieandjack]

As of today i wil not be on this website any longer.
To those who have helped in anyway, people ive met and the contacts i have made with others by phone, I thank you all.
Not giving up by we need to get on with our life and what will be, will be.
I can still be contacted by phone if anyone chooses to do so.
So much for the old saying " TO GET OFF SCOTT FREE " How appropriate but WE'LL SEE
Cheers everyone and good luck!!!!

[hippymick77]

We finally got onto scott this morning after ringing about 7 times. We told him about the forum and all the heart ache he is causing which i am sure he is already well aware of .
He insists that due to all of the unhappy customers and media arriving on his door step it is stopping him from working thus meaning more delay's on the trailers.So basically if he is left alone to do his job he can get back to knocking up a trailer a day.
He said that he does not want to liquidate and that he wants to give every one their trailers . After all the lies this guy has told us we don`t know wether to believe or not . But what choice do we have ? we know he doesn`t have the money to refund ,probably only has the material to build ?
And by the looks of things some people are getting their trailers , finally.
So what we are thinking is to leave him to do his job as it's the only real hope we have of getting our trailer's built.
Don't get me wrong we are angry and very, very worried but it's the only hope we have.

[glock40sw]

G'day All.
As most of the "Old Crew" know, I have been a member here for a few years.
I post to help others where I can. And also to learn from other members, more experienced that I.
I originally started this thread to see If I was the only "bunny" to be ripped off.
I never expected the response this thread has had, nor the number of people in the same boat as I.

I know that we (the ripped off) are frustrated as to what has happened.
I am also aware that the media is a hit & run ratings grabber. But sometimes it appears that ACA do, in fact get results every now & then.

I am also aware of the rules associated with posting to this forum. But I would like to ask the Moderators. Please don't lock this thread!.

There are a large number of people that have come together through this thread, all with a common goal, to either get what we have paid for or be refunded what we have already paid.
I know there are people that will say that this is not the place for it. But I put to these people... Where is the right place?
There are other forums out there that have similar threads to this one. But they have had nowhere near the response that this one has had.
So I put to you, The longtime members and moderators of this forum....What if you were one of the ripped off? Would you also be posting your thoughts and airing your frustrations here?
Now, I know that most of the posters to this thread have only joined this forum to post to this thread. But, how many of these posters actually have an interest in woodwork or other associated topics covered by this forum? Once this mess has been cleared up (one way or another) you may find that the people with the same grievance as I, will also become involved in the other topics covered on this site.
Hell, If we don't get our trailers, I'd say the Trailers thread under the Metalwork Sub-forums will get a hammering.
Yonnee, Dazzler, Etc Lookout....We are coming your way...
SO to finish up this epic (for me) post.

Please consider how you would feel in the same situation before considering locking this thread.

To the posters to this thread, Please keep it civil?

Thanks for your understanding.

[maddieandjack]

We finally got onto scott this morning after ringing about 7 times. We told him about the forum and all the heart ache he is causing which i am sure he is already well aware of .
He insists that due to all of the unhappy customers and media arriving on his door step it is stopping him from working thus meaning more delay's on the trailers.So basically if he is left alone to do his job he can get back to knocking up a trailer a day.
He said that he does not want to liquidate and that he wants to give every one their trailers . After all the lies this guy has told us we don`t know wether to believe or not . But what choice do we have ? we know he doesn`t have the money to refund ,probably only has the material to build ?
And by the looks of things some people are getting their trailers , finally.
So what we are thinking is to leave him to do his job as it's the only real hope we have of getting our trailer's built.
Don't get me wrong we are angry and very, very worried but it's the only hope we have.

Thats all very well, but seeing as you are a few hours closer to Melb than we are, why dont you go for a drive and meet the scumbag and really see him for what he is and will no doubt always be.
Im sure your views will change - DRAMATICALLY??
Go take a look at his workshop, where theres NOTHING and you may realize how shonky this character is.
I really feel for the peson I met their on Tuesday looking for his registered trailer with all his gear it, who left it there for minor zip repairs, who now doesnt have a trailer because Scott SOLD IT ON HIM. He was meant to go on holidays that day with his young family.
So think what you like and get told stuff that scott wants you to hear.The choice is yours
TRAILERS..... WOT TRAILERS..... AND WHO'S TRAILER WILL YOU REALLY GET.... MAYBE A STOLEN ONE PERHAPS ????

[Groggy]

Trevor, my posting the rules link was for the reason stated, that is all. The mods have no wish to close this thread unless unsubstantiated and wild claims are made.

[glock40sw]

Trevor, my posting the rules link was for the reason stated, that is all. The mods have no wish to close this thread unless unsubstantiated and wild claims are made.

Thanks.

[glock40sw]

G'day All.
Anyone heard anything lately? We haven't.

[hippymick77]

Nah nothing yet, all quite :