CoronaVirus ==> Empty Shelves

[Bushmiller]

Quiet, now, Paul

Gerry Harvey will want ScoMo to make it compulsory for everyone to have a coronavirus monitoring mobile.

Sorry Graeme, sorry.

(speaks sotto voce) I am not actually opposed to mobile phones per se as I can see where they are very useful. I do despair a little at how often they appear in people's hands, but look at me on the computer contributing to Nothing About Woodwork so who am I to cast judgement there. My beef is with the absurd amount of money I have to part with for the pleasure of such communication.

So the question is "who will pay for my phone?" At work they have on record our mobile phones so they can text us at a single stroke if they are short of people or have some other emergency. "Paul. Do you have a mobile number?"

"No."

End of conversation. Clearly not important enough for them to supply me with a device and pay for a plan. An impasse.

Regards
Paul

[GraemeCook]

Originally Posted by RossM

I find it astonishing and sad that there was so much opposition to the Australia Card - triggering a double dissolution - and yet a majority of people are paying thousands of dollars (via their smart phone) for the privilege of being tracked to a level that George Orwell would find hard to imagine.

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[Bushmiller]

FF; you omitted to caption your photo.

Is it a meeting of Mensa ?

Yes...

It's "corporate" Mensa. Add up the IQ of any twenty persons and you have one member. In this case the combined score probably easily exceeds 148, although on reflection that may also include the cameraman on the right at the back, who I don't believe is part of the protesting group (no goatee and only prepared to shoot with a camera) .

A further thought has just occurred. Could this be the "trigger" the US was looking for to ramp back the lock down restrictions?

Regards
Paul

[FenceFurniture]

There seems to be a lot of nationally known celebrities dying in the States (with a few internationally known ones too). So much so that the newspapers are sometimes saying "So and So did NOT die from Coronavirus related illness.

[GraemeCook]

The following article has a few interesting points. It questions the use of ventilators (based on hospital experiences), it describes the use of oxygen masks instead, it comments that severe cases present the symptoms of altitude sickness and describes the bizarre transition of patient health from laughing/joking to dire straits in a matter of minutes.

Coronavirus: Are 'live-saving' ventilators actually dangerous? | Daily Mail Online

We still absolutely know so little about this virus.

Regards
Paul

Sorry Paul,

This article does sound credible, but it was sourced from the Daily Mail, a British tabloid with a very creative reputation for news reporting.

Let us hope that something on the same issues is published in a medical journal.

[Lappa]

. Could this be the "trigger" the US was looking for to ramp back the lock down restrictions?

Regards
Paul

Very droll Paul, very droll.

[GraemeCook]

I present to you The Plague Stick!

Works wonderfully.

Opens doors, presses buttons, picks up bags, moves parcels, the lot!

Clever chimp

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Whacking recalcitrant Forumites?

[FenceFurniture]

... but it was sourced from the Daily Mail, a British tabloid with a very creative reputation for news reporting....

It may have been sourced from the Daily Mail but unlikely that one of their journos wrote it. The Australian arm of the Daily Mail features exceptionally regularly on Media Watch - at least twice per month. They are a pack of plagiarists who write nothing original, and cherry pick their plagiarised stories to the limit of "must be sensational BS click bait".

[NeilS]

Able-bodied white heterosexual males are unique in being the only group that have no lobby group standing up for them. ... Good to see a group that has nobody else lobbying for them standing up for themselves.

Yes, I guess they do have to stand up for themselves.

• Obviously the disabled can't do it. Some of them don't even have legs to stand up on, even for themselves, and others can't see where to stand because they are blind, like my mate. While the mentally ill just aren't sufficiently aware of others to see the desperate plight of those able-bodied white heterosexual males.

• And, as usual, those women are holding down a job and trying to get ahead in their careers to help pay for the mortgage, as well as multitasking the bulk of the domestic labour and childcare. That is when they are not trying to avoid domestic violence (1 woman a week dies at hands of partner) and pretending they are not too exhausted for you know what. Anyway, women just don't understand how tough life is for an able-bodied white heterosexual male.

• Likewise, forget about those gender/sexual preference lot. What would they know about very masculine heterosexuals? They are worse than the hetrosexual women. Anyway, no self respecting able-bodied white heterosexual male would want anything to do with them. Like, it could be catching or if the alphabets started lobbying for them it might be thought that able-bodied white heterosexual male are not as hetrosexual as they would like everyone else to think they are!

• That comes to the minority ethnic groups. Where to start? Take for example the aborigines. They reckon they are so hard done dying 8-9 years younger, having much poorer health and housing despite all living off our welfare and drinking less alcohol than the rest of us, that they don't seem to think able-bodied white heterosexual males are one of their priorities to go in to bat for. While the other ethnics are too busy filling the top places in our universities with their second generation kids. Somehow they think that life is OK here and don't seem to get the plight of the able-bodied white heterosexual male at all.

So, yes, the able-bodied white heterosexual males are just going to have to stand up for themselves. Nobody else seems to be doing it for them the way they feel it should be done for them.

I feel for all those downtrodden able-bodied white heterosexual males that they feel the need to have to stand up for themselves. Those that are lobbying for the other groups that are being discriminated against have a lot to answer for and are probably the reason why the downtrodden able-bodied white heterosexual males are having such a bad time of it.

[GraemeCook]

.....The Australian arm of the Daily Mail features exceptionally regularly on Media Watch - at least twice per month. .....

Media Watch still has an audience ? Of at least one!

[FenceFurniture]

>=2

[Bushmiller]

Having grown up: Nope, I'll rephrase that: Having spent my formative years in the UK, I am aware of the Daily Mail's ranking in the integrity stakes and I did hesitate to link them. However, I felt it was as Graeme said "credible," but this is just a gut feeling and only time will tell. If patients being treated with the ventilator are dying there may well be some truth. I may pursue the story some more to assess the validity ( or maybe one of the sleuths would like to have a go too as I am certainly not precious about it).

Just as a point of interest, the "blog" I linked to early in this thread (about a thousand years ago roughly) from Craig Dalton may be regarded as bona fide. He is one of a panel of eight who have been advising the federal government. The irony here is that just because the panel gives advice, it does not mean this is automatically adopted! Read into that what you will.

Regards
Paul

[Bushmiller]

You can see state by state break down here. United States Coronavirus: 738,913 Cases and 39,015 Deaths - Worldometer
Andrew Cuomo, the brother of CNN anchor Chris Cuomo is actually a democrat. Trump can't successfully attack Cuomo because Trump is not popular in New York at all and not many people listen to him there.

Thanks JOT

Michigan is number six on the worst affected. Over 30,000 cases. Ironic?

Trump is nevertheless still having a go at Cuomo. Even if NY is a lost cause for him, he probably thinks it makes him look good in his heartland. Oh, hold on, there is no evidence he has one of those organs.

Regards
Paul

[A Duke]

Hi,
I had the impression they only went onto the ventilator after the oxygen mask was not working.
Could be wrong but that was what i gathered.
Regards

[BobL]

I like the NZ solution to tracing. Keep a diary and every night note down you who met up with and spoke to that day for 15 minutes. I guess they must all know each other? "Err . . . the lady with the yellow and white checked pillbox I sat behind on the bus, . . . . . . "

Dear Diary: Ardern'''s new COVID-19 stopper