Election

[outback]

My broadband hasn't turned up yet. Kev's a failure. Bring back Hewson, or maybe Downer.

[echnidna]

If Abbot becomes the new lib leader he may recall Costello

[TEEJAY]

If Abbot becomes the new lib leader he may recall Costello

Don't you threaten me

[Ashore]

I rekon Costello is playing this smart , keep out of the limelight while Labor blame the Libs for everything from the drought we had to have to rising tides , as every Gov does to the previous one when first elected , and then after the next election do a John Howard like Phoenix impression.

[TEEJAY]

I rekon Costello is playing this smart , keep out of the limelight while Labor blame the Libs for everything from the drought we had to have to rising tides , as every Gov does to the previous one when first elected , and then after the next election do a John Howard like Phoenix impression.

So many are saying John the best Prime Minister we have ever had. I have to admit in his previous life alah Treasurer and earler he was a little bumbling - I am sorry but I just can't be impressed with you - type of guy, but given the reign he did have a long spell there. Yeah yeah - some will say he never changed - but he did get re-elected a bit.

I am not saying he is the best - I think people have such short memories anyone in recent history is all that matters or counts. I don't have far back beyond good old Gough recollection. Ah - now those were the days Prime Ministers car would be a Valiant - ah such grace - now if Malcolm had got a P76 instead of losing his pants - well

Thank goodness we don't take them too seriously.

[HappyHammer]

Let's lobby Kevin 07 to abolish the state / federal system in favour of federal only, then the pool of money can be used in the areas with most need rather than stored and bickered over.

I'm dreaming of a white christmas just like the ones I used to know......

HH.

[silentC]

It'll never happen while you have Labor at State and Federal level but at least the Labor party can tell the States to pull their heads in.

[HappyHammer]

.... but at least the Labor party can tell the States to pull their heads in.

This is one of the most important measurements IMO of Rudd as a leader.... we'll have to wait and see how much control he actually achieves over the states and the unions. We should review this point in 12 months and see how he has done. I'll reserve my judgement until then.

HH.

[bitingmidge]

It'll never happen while you have Labor at State and Federal level but at least the Labor party can tell the States to pull their heads in.

Do you think G W Bush cares?

P

[silentC]

Probably not but apparently Hillary is looking forward to working with Kev

[dazzler]

Latest news is a strike over xmas and new year will ground Qantas.

Who'd a thought that would happen under labor.....

I wanna get in quick...I didnt vote for him...now line up behind me

[dazzler]

This is one of the most important measurements IMO of Rudd as a leader.... we'll have to wait and see how much control he actually achieves over the states and the unions. We should review this point in 12 months and see how he has done. I'll reserve my judgement until then.

HH.

Better send him a needle and thread and some pain killers....hes gunna need em

[Wood Butcher]

Latest news is a strike over xmas and new year will ground Qantas.

Who'd a thought that would happen under labor.....

I wanna get in quick...I didnt vote for him...now line up behind me

Yeah of course it is Kevin's fault. I mean the talks that have been going on for months already before the election in regards to this potential strike have nothing to do with it do they.

[HappyHammer]

Yeah of course it is Kevin's fault. I mean the talks that have been going on for months already before the election in regards to this potential strike have nothing to do with it do they.

No this is because Qantas staff have to work longer for less to recoup the $69m Qantas have been fined for rigging post costs to the US.

HH.

[astrid]

Please stop this hypocritical union bashing nonsense.
How many registered trade unions or associations are there in this country?
How many indulge in Thuggish standover tactics of workers or bosses?
How many registered business's are there?
How many indulge in thuggish standover tactics of their employees or those trying to represent them?
Ever heard of a lockout guys?
How many of the union bashers on this forum have at sometime in their lives taken advantage of the benefits won by fights that others paid for.
Or do you donate the dough to your favorite charity?

As for the decline in membership, I was the delegate for many years and had a very reasonable working relationship with boss, membership was at 67%. It was the young ones who never suffered unequal pay for women,
two min toilet breaks for pregnant women, ETC ETC that refused to join because and I quote "I'll get the benefits anyway".

Is there any wonder that there is a bitter feeling toward those who ride the backs of others work?

Maybe some of you are too blinkered to see that your being manipulated by the interests of business, or you may run a business too small to afford a fair deal to your employees. In which case get out and get a job , and I hope its in an industry with a decent (in all senses) Union .

Astrid

Phew that was a rant