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16th March 2009, 05:34 PM #1
Monday night Show'n'Tell
Hi Folks
I know a lot of us spend at least a portion of our weekends scrounging through garage sales, markets, antique traps etc looking for tools. So I thought a Monday night show and tell thread might be fun.
One catch.. you have to tell us what you paid, it's much more fun (or painful) knowing what that some b#st@rd just found a 101 1/2 at a garage sale for 50c.
I have a couple of things that I found this weekend that I thought might be worth sharing. Not amazing garage sale finds I'm afraid.. both of them are from the htpaa tool sale in Melbourne this Sunday gone.
First up is a Vaughan and Bushnell 4 1/2.. I found an advert in a catalog next to round top bedrocks for these planes a few years ago and always wanted one. I bought a couple from ebay in the states when the ausy dollar was good but they had been repainted and it was hard to convince myself that they were original or complete.. they looked like bitsa planes that a collector might put together from left overs.
So.. when I saw this one for $75 I jumped!.. no rust, full original blade.. apart from the nickel on the body (yep that's nickel on the cheeks) I cant fault it.
I have been lusting after one of these for ages.. and 4 1/2 is my fave size smoother but if I stick to my own rule then I have to get rid of a 4 1/2 from my kit to make room for it.. silly rule.
I have a little research to do on this one.. as far as I was aware V&B flat top planes were marked 704, 705 etc or 904, 905 etc on the lever cap and cap iron.. this one is marked simply 4 1/2 the nickel plating on the body is new to me as well.
You can see the advert for these plane HERE half way down the page, interesting to note that on the same page the bedrock "new pattern" round tops are advertised.. did Stanley rip the flat top from V&B perhaps?
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Next up is a candidate for ugliest plane of the year award, a home made No.10
I always find home made cast iron planes fascinating, especially ones like this, so much time and effort has gone into making the casting and machining it then it has been cobbled together with some of the ugliest wood I have ever seen and an almost useless cutting and cap iron that are not held together with anything except the pressure applied by the lever cap. truly ugly... but for some reason I handed the man a 50 and went home with it I think I might finish it sometime. it weighs nearly a kilo more than a Stanley No.10 and the casting although rough is thick and flat.
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The tool show/sale thing was good fun.. it was my second time (I will fill out that form and join before the next sale I swear) and although everyone there knows their stuff prices are generally very fair and the mood is good. Both times I have leaned something new.. lots of chaps willing to share the knowledge.. and you can't beat that
So.. lets see it.. there should be at least a few Vic members who got lucky at the sale who are busting to have a little gloat. Anyone get lucky this weekend?Best regards, Luban
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16th March 2009, 06:00 PM #2
Great finds Luban.
I have read somewhere that Vaughn and Bushnell planes have a drop forged steel base and not a cast grey iron one as is customary on Stanleys et al.
Should be nice and flat. Won't be much fun lapping it if it's not.
That frog looks wonderfully easy to set - is the machining of the bed and the frog fit as good as it looks?
I have already mentioned my Sunday markets find over at the odd one out game.
See:
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...=84407&page=46
I didn't do as well as you did but I am happy with the result.
Cheers
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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16th March 2009, 06:33 PM #3
Hi Tom
on this one the machining is very good and the frog seats perfectly, very similar to the early bedrocks in the way the from seats but not identical. Dead flat, It will definitely make it into my kit.
However on a couple of other that I have had the machining left a little to be desired.
afaik the 70* series was bottom of the drop forged line the 80* series were cast iron planes and the 90* series were the high end drop forged planes.
I'm not sure what I have here.. the quality of finish suggests 904 1/2 but no markings to back that up makes me wonder.. I think the answer will lie in the nickel plated body, I don't think that was standard to all V&B planes.
If I were ever to be compelled to collect one make of plane I think these would be it.Best regards, Luban
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16th March 2009, 08:38 PM #4
G'day Slowy, Great Idea for a thread. I love the VB, never knew about them. Learn something new every day. But how the hell did they home cast planes?
I know it's probably not worth bothering posting these, but I went away for a 4 day bucks party for my best mate, and found this chisel and handle out the back of the holiday house where we were staying under an old bench that hasn't been used for like 30 years (out in the open).
The chisel's pretty rooted (pitted and handle broken). I'm positive the handle is a berg, which I am very excited about. Never been struck too!
And below is a rock that I think might be slate. It's one of the ones they have on either side of an inlet or body of water. You know, the ones people fish off with all the oysters. I'm going to try to grind it flat and true and give it a go as a waterstone. What do you reckon about this idea?
Either way, just checking in and putting in something. I usually end up finding something each week and spending monday excited, so I will be participating again. Hopefully with something a little more exciting.
Regards, Danos
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16th March 2009, 08:43 PM #5
BTW the chisel is a woodcock from Sheffield. Made my find slightly more depressing My other one or two of them are ok, but they have no "vibe". Bit of an odd thing to say, I know, but I just don't feel good with 'em
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16th March 2009, 09:02 PM #6
Not at all Danos. I know the feeling exactly, There are a few brands and makers that I know are top quality but I just don't care for them.. who knows why. pepsi V coke I guess
I have no idea about how the slate will go but I definitely want to hear about your results if you give it a go.
My favorite sharpening stones are all antiques and they are all obviously cut from rocks of some sort. I have often wondered about having a chat to our local stone mason about cutting up a few likely candidates into small blocks to play with.
I concur with your id on that handleBest regards, Luban
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16th March 2009, 09:08 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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hi Danos,
I dont think your rock is slate as it appears to lack the cleavage, rather more a fine siltstone without seein it in my hands - no reason though why it would not be ok as a water or oilstone. I have made some out of Marl (a dirty marble - black/grey).
Regards
Steve
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16th March 2009, 09:14 PM #8.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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16th March 2009, 09:20 PM #9
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16th March 2009, 09:58 PM #10
yeah, I'm very happy with the handle, and can't wait to try the stone. It looks nice and fine. Only one way to find out eh?
Someone got something to show off. I rate this thread almost as much as I do the hand tool game one,.
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17th March 2009, 09:01 AM #11Seasoned Learner
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more monday show & tell
Great thread idea.
My latest from a swapmeet last weekend is I think a really nice well cared for S#78 for $60 albeit without the fence which'll probably cost me eventually.
Pictured here with my 60-1/2 and roughy 220
I'm happy to say ive already used it too.
but, did i pay too much?
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17th March 2009, 11:36 AM #12
It looks really good, with a lot of japanning left. Looks nice to me. $60 is probably very slightly too much, but I wouldn't be worried. I reckon I would probably have paid it anyway if I didn't have one. The fences aren't too expensive either.. That's on my list of things to buy myself.
Cool find, enjoy!
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17th March 2009, 06:07 PM #13
Hi W,
welcome to the forum.
That 78 looks to be in very good condition.
Did it come with a depth stop? Very handy but not essential.
A fence is also not essential as you can clamp a straight edge to the work if you want to and plane up against it. The fence is also handy though.
If you want to test the market for prices, you can go to ebay and do a search.
In this case Stanley 78 plane and click on completed listings.
This will show recent sales and prices as well as priced items that didn't sell.
See
http://completed.shop.ebay.com.au/it...Q2em283?_rdc=1
Hope this helps
Cheers from Tele Point
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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21st March 2009, 08:19 PM #14
My Haul
This was a lot I bought at a swap meet sunday last from different sellers. Nothing special but I only paid eight bucks for the all of it in total. <br>
We have from the top left to right:
Cooper and sons Inside Calipers (replaced feet)
Moore and Wright dividers
Large Moore and Wright calipers
General usa calipers
English Screwdriver (cant read name looks like Codons, sheffeild eng?)
Tyzack Screwdriver
Unnamed long screwdriver
God Knows what the tool in the middle is. Named Pennant no167.
A Stanley Goliath No 40.
A Red Devil open ended spanner 7/8 and 3/4.
Stanley no 130 body only pat jan 30-83 / 0ct 23-83.
I know its not the holy grail of tool collecting, but I just love the fact you can get and (with a little restoration) use some quality tools that will last as long as you want them too. And for $8.
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21st March 2009, 09:11 PM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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I did well this weekend...
I did pretty well this weekend.
Some of it doesn't fit under hand tools, such as the belt sander, 26 brand and near new router bits (seriously large panel raising bits, bull nose bits, chamfering bits, round over bits), spade bits, etc. But I did get a cheese grater for wood, some nice rasps, and Stanley Bailey No. 5 (no idea of age), and low angle Stanley plane (no idea of age or number) some mallets, a hammer, etc.
Pics follow...
The router bits...
And a long shot for good measure...
I love bargain hunting!