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    One left leaning site I visit has surprised me with it's polling results..Labor only have got 25% of the vote so far (I cannot link to it as you cannot access it)....When this site had a federal election poll back in 2007 federal Labor had 90% support.

    I am pretty annoyed at the electoral council this time around...They have removed the electorate I was in and stuck me into an electorate where the member is 300km away and I have to drive through two other electorates to see him....Sheer stupidity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vernonv View Post
    Infrastructure spending. Much like building roads, schools, hospitals, etc, just on a smaller scale.
    The link between push bike riding and GDP is somewhat more tenuious than the link to education, transport and even health care. I think that might have been his point, but I could be wrong. Then again I profoundly disagree with the cash handouts. This downturn is going to last 2 - 3 years so immediate stimulus is less important than effective stimulous, but then again what has that to do with politics
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    Quote Originally Posted by damian View Post
    The link between push bike riding and GDP is somewhat more tenuious than the link to education, transport and even health care. I think that might have been his point. Then again I profoundly disagree with the cash handouts. This downturn is going to last 2 - 3 years so immediate stimulus is less important than effective stimulous, but then again what has that to do with politics
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    Quote Originally Posted by damian View Post
    The link between push bike riding and GDP is somewhat more tenuious than the link to education, transport and even health care.
    Well, that depends on the extent of the bike tracks doesn't it.

    Seriously, whether you build a road or an equivalent value worth of bike paths, what's the difference? It will still inject roughly the same amount of money into the economy. I think that is the point that has been missed.

    People tend to look at the party presenting the policy, rather than the policy on it's own merits ... and I'm guessing that this is the case here. I don't think I have ever voted for the Greens, but I reckon that bike paths are a good idea and would welcome them as part of an overall stimulus package.
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    It might inject money into the economy. My problem with it, is that it's short term and does nothing to aid and build upon the infrastructure needed by industry to increase the GDP.

    That is where to me this stimulus has missed the point and shows Dudd has no idea at all.
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    Guys,

    remember, no mater who you vote for. You always end up with a politician
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    Vote Gra.

    He doesn't look like a polie to me,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldo View Post
    Vote Gra.

    He doesn't look like a polie to me,
    Wookie maybe, but no pollie....

    Maybe we need someone like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldo View Post
    It might inject money into the economy. My problem with it, is that it's short term and does nothing to aid and build upon the infrastructure needed by industry to increase the GDP.
    That is where to me this stimulus has missed the point and shows Dudd has no idea at all.
    Certainly industry needs to be catered for, but it only partially contributes to GDP. A stimulus packaged focused solely on industry, is destined to fail.
    The package need to be balanced and aim for both short and long term benefits for industry, small business and households.

    Maybe Dudd knows more than you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldo View Post
    What have bike paths got to do with improving the economy of Australia directly?

    they create jobs!!!! you need people to make teh pathways and those people then go and spend money to live.

    Look beyond the basic level and look at the deeper levels ..... just like we do with woodworking and the tools we use.

    We could all "get by" with just one plaine but any woodworker worth theri salt use more and different tools.

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    after teh crap thats happend up at the mary river i surly hope labor goes. it is absolutly reduiculous that they flood the best dary farms in qld to build a dam that averages about 1m deep. they should sell teh land back to teh origional owners at what they paid for it and find a better spot. there are plenty around.

    or do what old joe said "pipe the watter from the north" never has there been a better idea.

    Having said that I have heard many times about "what Joe did for qld" but I'll be darned if I can figure out what ?

    I'm not telling you your wrong, I'm not slagging you off or anything. I am asking the question sincerely. What is it you percieve Joe did for queensland ?
    there hasnt been a dam built in qld scinse joe was in nor has there been any new roads or rail lines. al that labour has done since is drive the government into debt and build no infrastructure.

    he built theis state up from nothing.

    the gov neds to stop listening to the minorities and do sompthing for the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gra View Post
    Guys,

    remember, no mater who you vote for. You always end up with a politician

    firstly .... apologies ... yes i actual;l;y committed a sin i was harangin you all about. Verry sorry.

    And the above quote ... oh god that is so sad and so true.


    By the way .... i am not a typical greens voter as I have been until recently a ALP stalwart having come up through the ranks of young labor and having worked both directly and indirectly fopr people such as Whitlam, Ros Kelly, barry Cunningham et al. So please do not tar me with the Typical greens voter unless you mean I believe in the ideals of the old such as social equity, environmental care etc etc.


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