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    Default Need Advice pls

    What is the best finish over UBEAUT water dyes for kids toys...

    Hard Shellac or ordinary Shellac?

    Thanks in anticipation,

    Chipman

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    I think I would go the hard shellac, the new mix which is said to be tuff and more elastic and I would think a bit tuffer on kids toys. Normal shellac when and if bleted around can tend to bruse and flake. Depends on the type of toy and how rough the kids are too.
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    Thanks Claw Hama,

    I think it (hard shellac) is safe for kids once it is set. I want to make blocks and simple cars etc and want to avoid paint, polyurethane etc.


    Cheers,
    Chipman

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    I made some quite a few years ago and used food safe Organoil on them, kids all seem ok other than developing permanent ipod ear sindrome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipman View Post
    What is the best finish over UBEAUT water dyes for kids toys...

    Hard Shellac or ordinary Shellac?

    Thanks in anticipation,

    Chipman
    Just to do a little hijacking while you're on the subject, can anyone tell me where 'Blonde shellac' fits in to the picture??? Just tried it out for the first time - 3 or 4 coats then rubbed back with EEE and topped off with a buffing of Ubeaut Traditional wax for that silky feel - just about the best looking finish I've ever done/seen BUT, I don't know if it will last etc - any one know ????
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    Firstly to the toys:
    I would use the Dewaxed White Shellac as it will keep the coplours really bright and clean looking as would the Hard Shellac. However the Dewaxed White is a lot more easy to repair, rejuvinate, restore, etc, than the hard.

    Blond Shellac:
    Is a lighter colour shellac that has a few degrees of colour. Very nice finish and is what we use as the base for our Shellawax Glow. This is why there is a difference in the colour between Shellawax which is a pale cream in colour and Glow which is a light tan (teak) colour.

    If you're not wanting to change the colour of the timber, use White or Dewaxed White shellac. If you don't mind a slight colour change use the bolnds (blond, super blond, astra) if you want honey colours then use regular shellac (SILTN). If you want deep rich reddish colour, use garnet or ruby shellac and for dark browns use brown shellac.

    Most of those mentioned above aren't really that easy to get, but are obtainable. I can supply all of therm if required but not immediately. Usually have a hundred or so litres of blond mixed up also keep it in bulk but as as rule won't sell it in flake as we need it all for putting down to liquid. I'm out of ruby(garnet) never keep the brown but can get it in easily from our supplier.

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    Thanks for the advice Neil....now to find the time to do the toys!

    Cheers,

    Chipman

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