Woodworking Gloves

[soundman]

Ah you see thats where the problem lies........people consider this or that machine more or less dangerous...... that may be the case but a drill press has never been inocouous.

It has a lot of capacity for doing wrong.

One has to consider the WHY of wearing gloves with machines.
If you are wearing gloves to protect from rotating risk.....bad move, wrong choice
example.....wearing a glove because you are hand holding someting whist drilling and you know there is a rotation related risk.
In this situation a vice is what is needed not a glove.

If however you are wearing a glove because there is a risk from heat, or sharp edges or simply to keep hands clean whilst handling the material that will be placed in a vice or otherwise properly held...... that is reasonable.
In this case the gloved hand shoud go nowhere near the rotating parts.

In the first case the most likely primary cause of injury would be..... failure to use proper work holding methods.
The vast majority of drill press injuries are due to improper workholding.

Another case that started the previous argument was wearing gloves with an angle grinder........yes there are many instances of injuries involving gloves and grinders.
If a glove is used to protect the hand from the rotating disk, in an operation suchb as hand holding parts whilst grinding with a hand grinder... bad move wrong choice.
I know a bloke who acidentaly cut most of the way thru his own leg with a 9" grinder, a leather glove is very poor protection against such things.

better put the part in a vice or something or hand hold the item at a bench grinder.

If the gloves are used to protect the hands from hot metal, the hot waste stream, vibration, or to simply keep the hands clean.... reasonable choice.
But the hands shound not come near the rotating disk, in fact in most cases both hands should be on the body of the machine.

This is one of the main problems with PPE, to many people use it to protect themselves from a risk that should not exist and in many cases the PPE will be inadequate or inappropriate protection.

cheers

[Claw Hama]

I wear gloves when I'm welding and grinding and you are exactly right both hands should be on the grinder etc and the job should be held with vice, clamps or anything but your gloved hand.

[pitbull]

Don't you wear medical gloves when dealing with patients Boz ?

[soundman]

Ahh medical gloves..... that's another misunderstood glove issue.

Most people don't realise that the modern view is that the primary function of medical gloves is to protect the wearer, not the patient.
Yeh there are other issues associsted with infection controll and such.
But medical gloves are primarily PPE, because the greates risk is FROM the patient.

Again we are looking for the greatest risk.

cheers

[BozInOz]

Yeah. I just got out of surgery actually and kinda glad of my sterile double gloving.

Soundman is right though... gloves in med are to protect me. Might sound strange, but when you're taking blood, putting in lines, and other things, you get exposed to a lot a peoples blood. and you don't know if they've got HIV, HCV, HBV... anyway... i'ved finished work for the week...

hmmm... onto that next project...

[Dingo Dog]

Go the Ironclad, different sizes, different styles. I use the orange ones full fit for handling wood, steel, gardening, raking, shoveling, chopping etc. Dont use gloves around working machinery.

IRONCLAD, THEY FIT LIKE A GLOVE

Nope, I dont work for them, Bunnies have all the range.

D D

[Wild Dingo]

Nope dont wear gloves for woodworking... UNLESS... its when Im finishing a peice and dont want smears or hand finger to mark the finish then its ONLY thin cotton gloves... UNLESS... Im using epoxy or some such chemical shyte THEN I wear whatever the manufacturer recommends

Other than that only wear leather GAUNTLETS not gloves when welding or grinding WITH long sleeved shirt with sleeves rolled DOWN yeah got the burns to say DUMBASS!!

Gloves have more tendancy to hinder rather than help... and Ive never seen a point to those fingerless gloves gloves are for keeping digets warm thats it!! and without the fingers them fingerless gloves are bloody useless at keeping ones fingers warm

Personally I think theres an OVER RELIANCE on ppe in the workplace... more emphasis should be put on BRAINS and COMMONSENCE before ppe... if your brain is in gear and your commonsence is at home in the brain packet then one WILL take more care and think safer... its when those two things are absent for whatever reason that most accidents happen ppe will 9 times out of 10 not help a hell of a lot if the brains not at home and focused on the task at hand.. in fact in the case of gloves around machinery it could CONTRIBUTE to accidents more than help stop them... think glove snaring on rotating blade pulling fingers hand into said rotating blade that sort of thing... like wearing a tie around machines or loose clothing... stupid dumb mind out of gear shyte... THINK THINK THEN THINK AGAIN!!... the old work place saying of "Take 2" Doesnt mean take 2 for a fag or a yap to your mate it means take 2 to CONSIDER your job at hand what is needed what dangers there are and what you have to do to make it SAFE!! So Take 2 and put your brain into gear your commensence in place and THINK!!

But then were all guilty of doing dumb stupid idiot things from time to time... says he who has sliced diced drilled and generally bloodied up the shed so the orange tools have a reddish tinge man some of the "accidents" Ive had out there you'd think my name was Homer Simpson instead of wild dingo eh?

I mean who in their RIGHT mind actually DRILLS a peice of timber on the bench holding it with his hand when theres a drill press within 5ft of him? AND who with their BRAIN IN GEAR does so KNOWING that its Jarrah and that the damned FORSTNER BIT in the power drill is SHARP and will almost definantly hit a snag in the timber and jump out and drill THROUGH the finger nearest the bit?... I MEAN WHO WOULD DO THAT???... eerr um guilty as charged sir as I said just call me dumbass BUT!! Ive learnded I have! Im a saftey in the shed NUT now

Cheers
Shane

ahem... finger has healed by the way but has a permanent angle and cant be straightened fully anymore... mind you I was actually damned lucky not to loose my ring finger through that surgury... no it was the first finger left hand that I drilled through... the bloody dopey nurse and doc left my wedding ring on my finger... 6 WEEKS later after my constant screaming about the damned pain and turning up to the hospital every second night (to be given panadol and sent home without a single bloody glance at the fingers!!) they finally took the bandage of and theres this TINY thin band of yellow gold peeking through the swollen ring finger!!... had to wait another 2 weeks before the swelling had gone down before the nurse could get their little grinder far enough under and past the skin to cut the thing off.. bloody near got gangrene and whatever else happens when that sorta thing goes on... bloody idjuts!! ppe didnt help them get it right did it? NO IT DIDNT!!... Brain into gear people commonsence in place and THINK!!!

see even smartarse docs and nurses can make brain farts!!