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    Unhappy Hello all

    So, about 6 months ago i finished my coffee table made of Red Oak in Woodshop at school. I managed to stain the coffee table with some oil stain. It was Oak #315 or 351 of some brand and it was oil stain.
    Well, it finally warmed up here and now that schools out i have the time to finish my coffee table. I was reading around the internet and found an article saying that you can't apply lacquer over oil stain.
    Is this true?
    If it is, then are there any other options that can produce the glossy type of finish i'm after?

    -Bryan

    P.S., i'm not in Australia... i guess i should have read the forum title xD. Hope it doesn't make a difference.

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    I use Tung oil on some of the stuff I make and finish it with a wax polish. Traditional wax does a fantastic job and gives a real nice feel to the work and can be applied over oils such as Danish or Tung etc. Go here and take a look at some of the products available. You will find all you need there.
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    Peow130,
    Welcome to the forum and hope we can help from time to time. Makes no difference where you are from, if you enjoy woodwork you've come to the right place.

    Jerry

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    Hi Bryan and welcome....

    I am assuming you have already stained your table when you were back in school so it should be well and truly dry by now...

    Yes you can use both lacquer and polyurethane over an oil-based stain. Some people (me!) like to burnish the oil stain in with wet and dry paper as it helps to fill the grain. I usually leave it for a week and then lacquer it or use poly urethane over it.

    It is often easier to get a really flat glossy finish with the polyurethane as when you sand it back between coats, it becomes effectively a filler.

    What methods of application do you have? Spraying Equipment or not?
    If you don't have spraying equipment, I would suggest you use a wipe on polyurethane in full gloss. Are you from Washington State USA? Over there, you should be able to get a product called MINAX WIPEON POLY. (other brands will be available too) You can apply it with a lint free cloth and get excellent results. Just give it a gentle cut back with about 600 grit wet and dry paper using water and a few drops of detergent.

    When finished give it a good waxing and it will fairly gleam!

    Don't forget to post some pics!

    Chipman

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    Okay, thanks alot. Yes the stain should be fairly dry by now lol.

    As for spraying equipment I do have an unused spray gun for an air compressor, but i'm unskilled in that sort of thing.

    So basically i can use polyurethane and wet sand in-between coats to get a smooth glossy finish?
    Oh, and yeah i am from Washington State. Where would i be able to find the MINAX WIPEON POLY?

    What types of wax should i use?

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    Hi,

    You could try contacting MINWAX (it is an American Company) as to where to buy it but I assume you should be able to get it at better paint stores, Home Depot or woodworking places. When you find a suitable supplier, they should also be able to give you some guidance as to what waxes are available too (basically a good wax based furniture polish)

    Here is a link to MINWAX


    http://www.minwax.com/listserv/contactus.cfm


    It is a little difficult to give you specifc information as I am not at all familiar with what is available in your part of the world (apart from what I have seen on the NEW YANKEE WORKSHOP TV program )

    Regards,

    Chipman

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    I know there is some woodworking tools at the nearest Home Depot. That's where i actually got the stain/brush.
    I think there are a few wood type shops near here so i might go and check those out.

    Thanks.
    -Bryan

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    Hi Bryan,

    The internet is a wonderful tool

    This store is in Spokane Woodcraft
    http://www.woodcraft.com/stores/store.aspx?id=573


    Here is a wipe on poly from their catalog Watco
    http://www.woodcraft.com/search/sear...y=wipe+on+poly

    Use the gloss variety

    Chipman

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    Funny thing lol, thats the one i was talking about.

    Sweet, thanks alot. This helps me even more because they can probably help me alot more than some Home Depot could. I'll have to wait till i get paid in a few weeks to get my supplies though.

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    there are a few water based lacquers on the market that will go over oil stain akzo nobel make one that i know works. Other than that i have never had a problem with lacquer on oil stain as long as you let the stain dry and use a good sealer first.

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