Gyprocking

[patty]

A couple of quick questions on Gyprocking I have just recently "Knocked up a frame basically a nib wall and a return for the section above the doors for a builtinrobe using 75x30m treated pine and am ready to sheet!!

1/Can i substitute Liquid Nails for Gyprock Glue
2/Is it better to nail using clouts or use screws

thanks in advance

[tea lady]

There are special nails with textured tops that make the joining stuff stick to them easier. (Sorry about lack of technical terms.) Don't know about the liquid nails. I'm sure someone who actually knows something will turn up soon.

[pharmaboy2]

ist question - cant see why not, though blue glue does build a little better, and is cheaper and easier to apply.
2nd - either /or, into pine, nails are easier (gyprock type) as the edges are raised and are much ledd likely to pierce the paper - you need to be careful with screw and driver - though personally I use screws whenever working by mydelf as I can reach one handed and screw - try nailing with only one hand!

[Ivan in Oz]

1/
Yes you Can;

BUT Don't!


2/

Nail or Screw, I use both.
Prefer Screw; pierce, but don't rupture the Paper.

[Honorary Bloke]

Nails or screws will work fine. Use the proper type of either. I prefer screws as they don't "pop" after a few years, as the odd nail will.

Type of glue is less important. Well-fastened mechanically, the glue becomes almost irrelevant.

[gpkennedy]

Just remember not to screw or nail into the glue. Put dobs of glue where you are not going to nail/screw. This helps prevent nails poping.
Cheers
George

[China]

1 not if you want a good job
2 gyprock screws as said above won't pop after a few years

[peter_sm]

The adhesive holds the plaster to the studs more than the screws. The few screws used are to hold the plaster while the adhesive dries. Fewer fasteners means less spot repairs. I used them mainly on the edges where topcoating is required anyway, and every 5th stud in the middle of the sheet. That only meant two fasteners on a wall 3600 x 2400 that were not on an edge, and no fasteners on a wall that was 1800 x 2400. The whole room 3600 x 1800 had just 4 fasteneners not on an edge.

[Honorary Bloke]

The adhesive holds the plaster to the studs more than the screws. The few screws used are to hold the plaster while the adhesive dries. Fewer fasteners means less spot repairs. I used them mainly on the edges where topcoating is required anyway, and every 5th stud in the middle of the sheet. That only meant two fasteners on a wall 3600 x 2400 that were not on an edge, and no fasteners on a wall that was 1800 x 2400. The whole room 3600 x 1800 had just 4 fasteneners not on an edge.

This is interesting and points up a big difference in OZ vs Seppo construction techniques. As a rule, we never use any type of adhesive for putting up gyprock, only mechanical fasteners. Lots of mechanical fasteners. One way is not any more right than another, just a different approach to the same challenge.

[peter_sm]

Bingo H Bloke.

There are more than one way to skin a cat. I just hope mine lasts, as I plan on being in our house for 20-30 years

[patty]

Thanks Lads for the replys one other quick question which i should have included was

With the metal angle strip for the external corners do you nail that or screw it i was thinking of nailing it as the heads on the nails look like they will recess better in the angle than the screws which will make top coating the area easier where the plasterboard screws look like they will sit out

[rod@plasterbrok]

Have a read of this. http://www.how2plaster.com/angles.html

It gives you various methods and the pros and cons of each.

Cheers Rod

[patty]

Nice Work Rod Cheers!!