Electric fence to keep dogs out of garden

[dan76n]

I looked at the collar systems but I wont put collars on my dogs unless they are walking. I have a fully fenced yard so its unlikely to shock any humans bar myself when I do a test.

[jisk]

Check out Hidden Fence. We use it to keep our border collies from roaming. It works a treat. http://www.hiddenfence.com.au/

[STAR]

Dan,


See Rural Buying Service at Labrador. Ask for Jim or Ian, They can help you and i suspect would be cheaper than a produce store.

Tell them , Peter from AG & AM recommended them. They might not have the product in store but will get it up from Lismore branch the next day.

They are the only people I deal with on the Coast, because it is the only company here on the Coast that specializers to the Rural Community. The Gold Coast branch mainly specializers in suppling, Golf Clubs, bowling greens, turf farms nurseries , orchards and small crop farmers but the Lismore head office caters for all sections of the Agricultural Industry.

ps. They will not dud you either.

[dan76n]

Thanks guys for your help.
I ended up getting this http://www.dogmaster.com.au/cat/inde...duct_id=195042

Its not an overly strong shock but enough to keep the dogs away from the garden.

[rogerch]

Dan,

I have worked in Electric fencing for 15 years so can probable put you on the right track. I wont state the company I work for as I dont feel this is the forum for touting products we sell.

Firstly, many of the responses are correct but this puts it altogether and a few not mentioned.

1. Animals such as dogs are very sensitive to an Electric fence and even a small Energizer will deliver a sufficient shock to prevent the dog from challenging the fence again. In most cases once the dog has recieved a shock he/she will not go near it for some time and only periodically will you need to turn it on. The shock the energizer will deliver (no matter how much he/she will yelp is perfectly safe.

2. Purchasing a small battery powered energizer that takes anywhere from 2 -6 Dsize batteries will be sufficient. They chew through batteries in about 4 weeks if used continually but will be fine for your situation with periodic use.

3. An Energizer is effectively an open circuit with both an output and earth terminal. The output lead must be connected to a fully insulated wire or tape (this could be steel wire or more convenient you can purchase poliwires or politapes) the earth lead must be connected to a suitable earth stake (ideally a galvanised rod (8-10mm) at least 600mm long driven into the ground exposing only 2-3 inches which the earth lead connects to (usually with alligator clips) When the dog touches the insulated wire the current will travel through the animal through the ground to the earth stake (which job is to collect the electrons) and return the electrons to the earth terminal on the energizer which completes the circuit and delivers the shock (a little like flicking the light switch to turn a light on) it sounds like a complicated procedure but it all happens in a second.

Dan rather than confuse you anymore the guys at your local rural store will provide you with a little info and most companies like us provide a "how to manual'

You can also PM me with any further info you may require.

Roger

[Doughboy]

Yep 'lecy fence make dog stay in yard, but I have to say that Roger you make it sound like you need a degree to install one.

I will say that I have only worked with 'lecy fences on farms for 28 years so I admit there may be some things I am not up to speed on.

[rogerch]

Doughboy,

Appreciate it may have appeared too tech; but in the last 15 years I've been to 1000's of farms to teach farmers who have been doing it wrong for the last 30 years who thought there was nothing to it.

Do you want me to send one of our reps to your place??

Roger

[dan76n]

I have set it up with gal wire using timber garden stakes which I drilled holes in. I was going to insulate the wire where it touched the timber but it doesnt seem to need it. I picked up an copper rod (house earth) as my earth. It works a treat.
I also found that it isnt much of a shock when Im wearing my rubber thongs. Bare foot, well thats a different story.

[rogerch]

Good on you Dan.

Note: unless the dog has access to gumboots it'll hurt alright.

The earth peg you've used isn't the actual mains power earth for the house or shed is it?? I dont think this is what you mean but just checking as you certainly dont want to use a current mains power earth.

[Doughboy]

Tell you what as soon as we have problems I will call you, but just a tip don't hold your breath.

[dan76n]

I bought a copper earth from electrical shop ($10) I didnt realise how big they are. I bashed it into the ground about 500mm.
The dogs seem to have already learnt as when we take them for a walk they cut across the front lawn staying as far from the fence as possible.