Installing toilet

[johnturk]

Hi all,

I have been looking at several DIY sites and youtube on how to install a toilet. But they all referring to standard US practice, which is using a wax ring etc etc.

Any one knows any site or thread explaining the common way to do here in oz? Any help greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

JT

[Uncle Bob]

Wax ring? I guess that's what you wished you had after you get the plumbers bill

[bricks]

The instructions on/ in the box?

[wonderplumb]

Depends on the design of the pan. A lot of the 'fancy' ones now are screwed and siliconed down to the floor but I still belive its better to get one that beds down on sand and cement. After all unless you tell the tiler to make the floor dead level under the pan you could end up with half inch of silicone supprting it. As for a wax ring the only thing I can think of is basically a 4" wax ring you push into the pan collar to seal it once the rubber has had it. Made by La-Co, an american company.

[Honorary Bloke]

You lot!

In the States, the drain almost always goes into the floor, not the wall. The toilet is screwed down to the drain via a pair of bolts that stand up through each side at the bottom of the toilet. The wax ring fits around the toilet drain to seal it to the drain pipe in the floor. As it is a simple gravity feed under no pressure, the wax does a good job of sealing.

But for wall drains, the wax ring would not be much good.

[johnturk]

Thanks all for the reply. I have checked the box, it doesn't come with any instruction.

And for the wax ring, is there any alternative to that? and where do purchase the wax or the alternative from? (not found in jeweller LOL !!!)

Thanks,

JT

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

Thanks all for the reply. I have checked the box, it doesn't come with any instruction.

And for the wax ring, is there any alternative to that? and where do purchase the wax or the alternative from? (not found in jeweller LOL !!!)

Is the pipework 100mm DWV PVC pipe?

The Aust. standard method is to use "pan collars." Use a lubricant on the rubber and the loo outlet when installing; Vaseline is good for this.

They're available in any good plumbing suppliers as well as Bunnies & probably Mitre10.

(If you have the old cast iron pipes, or similar, there are adaptors available.)

[rsser]

The apprentice used to be sent to the plumbing supplies place for one of these, to ask for an elephant's foreskin.

[journeyman Mick]

[QUOTE=Skew ChiDAMN!!;674072]...........Use a lubricant on the rubber and the loo outlet when installing; Vaseline is good for this. .............QUOTE]


Actually, since vaseline is a petroleum based product it may cause the rubber to break down in the long run. I believe you'd be better off using silicone grease or soap as a lubricant.

Mick

[johnturk]

the pipework is the old cast iron. And I assume bunnies carry these adaptors.

rsser, I will ask them about the elephant's foreskin LOL

[China]

I learnt something a long time ago Never assume that bunnies carry anything

[wonderplumb]

What kind of pan do you have to put in?????????

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

[Actually, since vaseline is a petroleum based product it may cause the rubber to break down in the long run. I believe you'd be better off using silicone grease or soap as a lubricant.

That sounds like good advice. Our loo doesn't tend to last more than a few years before it needs replacing (don't ask!) so it's not something I tend to think about.

I learnt something a long time ago Never assume that bunnies carry anything

Also good advice!

JT, if you have a plumbing supplier near you, I'd suggest you give them a visit instead. Not only are their prices usually cheaper (even when ignoring trade discount) but, unlike Bunnies, most of the blokes there should know the trade and can help you out with which pieces you'll need and any installation tricks.

Of course, it helps if you speak the trade lingo. Again unlike Bunnies, most of their reps won't even attempt to hazard a guess what you mean when you ask for "the rubber doover-thingy that goes over the end of the whatsit."

[johnturk]

btw, it is a S trap toilet.

So I gather, I need a pan collar, some lubricants, and adaptor for cast iron pipe. Any special term for these items? Do I miss anything?

thanks again for all replies,

JT

[davo2310]

ask for a pan collar rubber to suit cast iron, it should come with a large hose clamp/utilux clip. Bag of premixed sand and cement and away you go. might wanna sit the pan in place once you have the collar rubber on, just make sure it sits in there nicely, and dont make the cement too wet, wet the base of the pan aswell.

Good luck