Why do people do this sort of thing?

[himzol]

Hi Folks,

I moved to the Adelaide Hills about a year ago. The property we aquired has a great view and a bush setting.
We've decided that the house has to go so have done very little on it as such, however I have spent the better part of the last year fixing "home renovations" that were obviously inspired by the large number of TV shows around at the moment. Things like, paving without drainage, large trees planted up against the house, retaining walls incorrectly made and rebuilding a chook shed.
Having done all that (still have some retaining walls to fix) I moved on to the "garden". Here I have so far removed about five Umbrella trees and have about the same number to go.

Here is where I really got steamed.

While cutting back some blackberry bush to get to one of these trees I inadvertantly uncovered what I can only describe as a DUMP, the sort of stuff that I uncovered ranges from old shoes and flower pots to some asbestos fence sheets.
What upsets me is that apart from the asbestos all of this stuff could have gone into the regular weekly garbage pickup.

Why, ????

Himzo.

[Wood Borer]

Himzol,

Get with it!

Today's new religion is money and the monks of the new religion are selfishness and greed. The new temples are the stock exchange and the banks. The concepts of making the world a better place, the environment, being honest etc have no place any longer - old hat.

Developers have embraced this new religion with open arms and have dragged a whole lot of suckers along with them.

I agree with you whole heartedly, these slimeballs need to be stopped but unfortunately the likes of us are in the minority and are labelled as cynics and stirrers when we make statements that might affect their bottom line.

I can't put into words many more of my feelings on this topic or I might get myself into trouble.

I feel a bit better getting that off my chest.


- Wood Borer

[silentC]

Yeah, they could've at least dug a hole to put it in. Lazy buggers

[Wongo]

Some people just don’t care. I still don’t understand why people would put old shoes, fish bones and disposable nappies into the paper bins.

[jackiew]

working in software the majority of my colleagues are eductated to at least degree level ( i.e. they can read and should be able to understand simple instructions ). We've done away with the coffee maker but until we did there were one or two individuals who would take the last cup of coffee but not set off a fresh brew, and would frequently not even bother to turn the coffee maker off. Didn't matter how many signs or e-mails were posted to ask them not to do this.

In a previous workplace I was responsible for emptying the can-crusher ... either people were too lazy to use it or they just chucked in all sorts of rubbish.

The same people are presumably the ones who empty their car ash-trays onto other people's nature strips ( or into the face of following motorcyclists ), drop their macdonalds wrappers half a metre from the bin, or into handy mailboxes, and let their dogs crap all over sports fields and school playing fields, park across other people's driveways and in disabled bays at the supermarket.

After much ranting about this I've come to the conclusion that there are two possible reasons for this behaviour

1.they genuinely think they are "too important" to make coffee, put rubbish in the bin or spend an extra 2 minutes walking across a supermarket carpark and it never even crosses their minds that the rules apply to them or that they should consider anyone else.

2. they recognise the fact that they are pathetic insignificant beings, understand exactly what they are doing wrong and their behaviour is their attempt to prove to themselves ( if not to anyone else) that they are important after all.

I do think you learn by example. As a small child my mother was all set to drag me into the police station ( under the eyes of an interested bus queue ) and dob me in if I didn't pick up the sweetie wrapper that I'd just dropped. I am totally unable to throw down rubbish in the street. I'm will carry an icy-pole stick for miles while looking for a bin. So its no surprise that my son aged under 5 watched the man in front of us in a queue drop something on the floor and announced in a very loud voice . "mummy, that man hasn't been brought up properly has he, he doesn't know he's meant to put rubbish in the bin"

Which sadly means that the children of the man I saw giving his dog a haircut in a beauty spot in a victorian national park ( blocking the path and leaving piles of dog hair behind ) will probably not have respect for anyone else either :mad:

[himzol]

The worst thing is that now I have to clean up somebody elses c**p, which leaves me out of the shed for at least another day.

Jackie,
I agree we learn by example, my son who is 15 is a bit like me (except better looking and taller) nearly missed the winning goal being scored in the Oceania game between Australia and New Zealand because he was taking his hot dog wrapper and drink bottle to the bin unlike the people around us who were just dropping theirs behind the seat in front.

SilentC,
They did dig a hole and put it in, they just didn't bother covering it.

Woodborer,
I'm quite happy to be labeled a cynic and a stirrer, but I disagree that we are a the minority.

Anyway I really just wanted to get a bit of frustration out of my system, thanks for the replies.

Himzo.

[Iain]

Not to mention the stains on your clothes from the graffiti on the bus/train etc, the lump of second hand chewing gum, the cretin next door who lets his diesel leak into my property and the (n)ever vigilant EPA who can't be bothered to do anything about it.

[ozwinner]

We had a rental property out in the country, actualy we couldnt sell it so we had to rent it out.

Anyway after they left we found this mountain of green rubbish dags full of cr&p in the carport, it was about 6x4x.5M.
To get to the carport was a longer trip than taking it out to the nature strip for the garbos.
Why? Because they are morons. Why else?
Oh, and we found out later on, that they were shooting up too, this is from people who had the references to get into the place to start with.

Al

[davo453]

It can at times be a sad world, humans are (it is my observation) by nature a self destructive creature, hell bent on annoying each other be it by being antisocial or by being too constrained by the rules set by society. You can't win really I guess that’s what makes life interesting, at least it puts a bit of variety into our day.

On my planet everyone gets on with everyone else there are no war's, no terrorism, no murders or unthoughtful behaviour, no vomiting in the street or litter out of place, the public toilets are always spotless and drivers always obey the rules, you never see disagreements of any sort at sporting events in fact violence and unexpected events just never happen. Guess that’s why, news papers don't sell and why I don't live there anymore

Cheers

Dave (nanoo nanoo)

[bitingmidge]

Developers have embraced this new religion with open arms and have dragged a whole lot of suckers along with them.

In defence of SOME developers :eek:, may I ask what relationship a half-witted moron who is too lazy to properly dispose of or recycle household refuse has with the person who originally subdivided the lot on which the house was constructed?

Having been involved with the development industry for most of my life, I have certainly seen the "White Shoe Brigade" at work, and note that they are not typical, but I have never actually ever seen any bone fide developer:
cut his dog's hair in a national park, dispose of dirty nappies unthoughtfully, leave garbage bags in carports, or hide household refuse in half buried patches behing the blackberries.

Before we declare open season on Developers as a breed, let's not forget that developers make a living by responding to a market. The market comprises by and large, the great unwashed, the morons, those bereft of any morality or even an inch of behavioural responsibilty, the blithering idiots!

If there were no blithering idiots, there would be only wonderous and wholesome responses to the market, and developers would be the good guys!

Death to the blithering idiots!!! (Haven't we been here before?)


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[DarrylF]

Nothing a bullet wouldn't fix.

[Caliban]

quote "Nothing a bullet wouldn't fix."
Darryl
Or a dot point.
or even a good old fashioned indent.
Jackie
where did he plug his dog hair clipper in?
Al(Oz)
I feel your pain, I had the same experience with my house, except I had to rip up the carpet after "they" let their kids run around without nappies and s*#t all over the carpet.
everyone
or the morons who drive into the bush to set their old lounges, fridges, baby strollers etc free, oh and sometimes, kittens. But lets not go there. :mad:
I feel much better now.
We, on this forum, are all such responsible citizens it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. Or is that what incontinence feels like?

[nik]

Here's one for ya, what about us honest people that don't litter, and don't vandalise and destroy things and we are made the victims. When I was renting a unit last year, i made sure that I didn't break anything, it was always clean, and I even fixed a few things in the place that were broken. 4 months out of a 6 month contract, i call It quits, and tell the real estate that I'll be leaving early, and agreed to pay the rent up untill someone else rents the unit. So I cleaned everything, made sure nothing was out of place in the unit, in fact, It was in a worse state when I arrived there than when I left. Anyway, the real estate agent inspected the property and she said that everything was fine and that I'd get all of my bond back. What happens, about a month later, I found out that the property had been rented out (and no, she didn't call me, i looked on the website every week) so I called her and she said everything was fine and she'd send down papers for me to get my bond back. What happens? They charge me $100 for bloody cleaning! How dirty can it be after 1 month? All that could be there is a bit of dust, and you'd think that the new tennants would clean it anyway, i had to when I moved in. And that aint the end of it, they tried to rip me off another weeks rent! When you can get tennants like ozwinner had and leave piles of garbage around and crap like that, they seem to get away with it. Honestly, somethings seriously wrong in this world. Well, i've had my little say about the topic, and it brought back a bit of anger from that damn real estate agent that I had stored away. ARRR, I think i'm going to have to find a bit of scrap wood and hit it very hard for a few hours...If ya need me i'll be me shed.

Nik.

[Eastie]

quote "Nothing a bullet wouldn't fix." ...or the morons who drive into the bush to set their old lounges, fridges, baby strollers etc free, oh and sometimes, kittens. But lets not go there. :mad:

That reminds me of something so funny I nearly died laughing.
I was out fixing up a stock yard ramp with my brother many moons ago when a toorak tractor pulled up about 100m off where we were on the side of the road. A lady gets out, opened the back of the car up and pulled out a box. Before you know it hey presto out jumps a cat. The cat obviously didn’t think much of being confined in the box as it took off like lightning in to the paddock in front of us. My brother who was oblivious to what was going on lifts his head up from reading the plan, saw the cat, instinctively grabbed the 22-250 off the dash and with great composure nailed the fleeing feline in full view of the owner. I managed to compose myself just long enough to point out the owner standing on the side of the road, hands over her face shocked a the fast demise of the pet she had set free.

[silentC]

I've posted this story before but what the heck. I worked for a developer in Sydney building a block of retirement units. His trick to get rid of rubbish without paying for it was to have us pile it up in decorative heaps and throw pine bark over it. We'd then plant shrubs in it. I remember planting one shrub by removing a paint tin from the heap, which gave me a ready made hole for the shrub. The only problem then was what to do with the paint can.

Eastie, are you sure she wasn't just taking Tiddles for a walk? Now that would be funny. :eek: